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Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:28 pm
by Jan Lundquist
I come up against something at least once a day that causes me wonder. As in I wonder if A is somehow connected to B?

I have intentionally stayed out of the FTM discussion, because there is no hard evidence for it. The "closest" (if you can call a third hand report close) is a recent report that Ryan Bledsoe said that his father's NASA friend, code named Tyler, told his father (Chris Bledsoe) that he worked for the NASSAU group, headed by Townsend Brown, and implied that this group has time travel technology.

"Tyler D" has recently been identified as Tim Taylor. In 2014, Taylor published a memoir called Launch Fever, which was subsequently reviewed by Linda, on Amazon (Reportedly, the review has been taken down in the last couple of weeks)

The Bledsoes met Taylor in 2012 or so, then connected him to Diana Pasulka, ca. 2014. She is the one who gave him the cover name.

How curious is it that, long before Tyler D was a twinkle in her author's eye, the right hand column of the Townsend Brown family archives at https://www.thomastownsendbrown.com/library.htm holds (as of March 5, 2024) this statement from September, 2010:
A copy of the full, 100-page version of "Hello Stupid," by Beau Kitselman is available at HelloStupid.Org courtesy of "Tyler."
Coincidence? It doesn't feel like it to me. But what to make of it all? I dunno. All I can do is wonder.

Jan

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:24 am
by natecull
"Tyler D" has recently been identified as Tim Taylor.
For those fans of 1990s TV family sitcoms among us, we will never not call this poor innocent rocket/UFO scientist "Tim 'The Tool Man' Taylor". Unh unh unh! More power!
a recent report that Ryan Bledsoe said that his father's NASA friend, code named Tyler, told his father (Chris Bledsoe) that he worked for the NASSAU group, headed by Townsend Brown, and implied that this group has time travel technology.
Well that's interesting, isn't it.

Yes, I too am baffled by the claims/hints of time travel in Morgan's story. Particularly so because the 1980s David Hatcher Childress version of what I call the "1970s Townsend Brown Mythology" seemed to be obsessed with time travel as well. Although the Mythology never really put Townsend Brown completely in focus; he was just one name among many to conjure countercultural alt-physics dreams with, and those dreams ranged wildly from ancient lost civilizations with Vimanas parked in Tibetan temples to psychic healing and "free energy" machines. But time travel was never far from the mythology, either.

Which is why my eyebrows went "sproinnng", Spock-like, in the 2000s when I first saw that Morgan was pitching time travel as a definite Townsend-adjacent thing. Did he pick that up from the 1970s Mythology.... or did the 1970s Mythology pick that up from Townsend himself? And did Townsend himself ever claim to have *built* a time machine, or just that sometime in the future, some far distant civilization *might* build one, and therefore, if they did, they'd be able to access our time? I think even Morgan maybe only ever hinted at the second of those options?


Nate

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:26 pm
by Paul Schatzkin
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Have y'all seen this post from back in August?

https://www.ttbrown.com/synchronic-godel-model/

I am not sure why this has been on my mind lately, but something that crossed my transom recently got me thinking that 'Synchronic' model of time travel in the video near the end is a powerful analogy.

--P

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:51 am
by David Osielski
Jan Lundquist wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:28 pm Taylor published a memoir called Launch Fever, which was subsequently reviewed by Linda, on Amazon (Reportedly, the review has been taken down in the last couple of weeks)
Still up it seems.
https://www.amazon.com/review/R1LPERWDX ... 0595266274
A copy of the full, 100-page version of "Hello Stupid," by Beau Kitselman is available at HelloStupid.Org courtesy of "Tyler."
Without hacking all the 2010 HTML code via Wayback (FTM) Machine does anyone have ready access to the 100-page "Hello Stupid" PDF so this newbie can get up to speed and about "Tyler"???

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:54 am
by David Osielski
Never mind. Daylight Savings Time brain fog.

Should've used some (Boolean) logic.

search.php?keywords=%22hello+stupid%22

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:23 am
by natecull
A copy of the full, 100-page version of "Hello Stupid," by Beau Kitselman is available at HelloStupid.Org courtesy of "Tyler."
That name is a very odd coincidence, too. I thought it was Phil Young who republished the Kitselman books - was he not the one who published the earlier "HelloStupid.org"? At the time HelloStupid.org went up (2011 according to Wayback Machine, but with a "Hello Supid, World" [sic] post in August 2015) a pseudonym of "Tyler" didn't raise any eyebrows - American Cosmic wasn't published until 2019.

To play Brad Pitt's advocate, though: a lot of American males became very attracted to the name "Tyler" after a certain 1999 movie, so it's not that surprising if that word appears multiple times as an online pseudonym.
search.php?keywords=%22hello+stupid%22
That's certainly a keyword search of this site, yes, but I don't see it locating a PDF?

I guess the printed paperback 2017 edition is available via kitselman.com, or Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0993346537/

Nate

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:50 pm
by Paul Schatzkin
David Osielski wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:51 am A copy of the full, 100-page version of "Hello Stupid," by Beau Kitselman is available at HelloStupid.Org courtesy of "Tyler."
Where do you get the 'Tyler' connection here? Are you inferring that 'Tyler' (the codenamed bestowed by Diana Pasulka) us responsible for republishing Kitselman's "Hello, Stupid"? Because on Amazon the publisher is listed as:
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Without hacking all the 2010 HTML code via Wayback (FTM) Machine does anyone have ready access to the 100-page "Hello Stupid" PDF so this newbie can get up to speed and about "Tyler"???
When I get to my other workstation this afternoon I'll dig into the archives and see if I have that .pdf. I must have it somewhere, since I quote from it in the book.

--PS

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:35 pm
by Jan Lundquist
Paul, see the first post in this thread.

I was wrong when I wrote that the Chris Bledsoe statement was a recent one. Apparently, he tweeted it two years ago.

jan

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:30 pm
by Paul Schatzkin
Jan Lundquist wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:35 pm Paul, see the first post in this thread.
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OK...
...the right hand column of the Townsend Brown family archives at https://www.thomastownsendbrown.com/library.htm holds (as of March 5, 2024) this statement from September, 2010:
A copy of the full, 100-page version of "Hello Stupid," by Beau Kitselman is available at HelloStupid.Org courtesy of "Tyler."
Dead end:
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And this I find even more baffling:
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If Pasulka codenamed 'Tyler' in 2014.. who was using that handle in 2010? What was "HelloStupid.org"? Did something on that now missing page say "courtesy Tyler"?
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FWIW, I did find my copy of "Hello Stupid" in the Before Times Archives.
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Hello Stupid.pdf
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Knock yourselves out...

--PS

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:56 pm
by David Osielski
natecull wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:23 am That name is a very odd coincidence, too. ...so it's not that surprising if that word appears multiple times as an online pseudonym
I agree with Nate. But I've also learned to follow the synchronicities ever since my "nice, vanilla, terrestrial" reality became all "strange, rocky road, cosmic off-world" after tripping into this blog and meeting y'all 8)

Seems "Tyler" is in the zeitgeist beyond a mere NASA engineer born in 1956.
https://twitter.com/NickHintonn/status/ ... 1427415040

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:07 pm
by Jan Lundquist
David, the Force has been called many names. Tyler is as good as any.
my "nice, vanilla, terrestrial" reality became all "strange, rocky road, cosmic off-world" after tripping into this blog and meeting y'all
LOL. Once you are on the bus, there is no getting off. Relax and enjoy the ride.

Jan

Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:25 pm
by David Osielski
Jan Lundquist wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:07 pm Relax and enjoy the ride...
Oh, I'm relaxing...just hold my drink!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgrJEpUqSuw&t=20s
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Re: Time Travel: It's a wonderment.

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:31 am
by David Osielski
Paul Schatzkin wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:26 pm Have y'all seen this post from...
YESTERDAY??? "follow the white rabbit"
https://home.cern/news/news/knowledge-s ... laboration
open-source timing technology
CERN launches the White Rabbit Collaboration I CERN-home.cern_2024.03.23 (3488).jpg