Ghost Murmur and Quantum Magnetometry

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Ghost Murmur and Quantum Magnetometry

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A very interesting new story dropped from Iran a couple days ago. It's giving me deja-vu to something I remember reading on this or one of the other TTB forums years ago: a device that can track heartbeats from a distance. Did Raymond "Trickfox" Lavas mention this? (Edit: See below, probably not).

Either way, this tech has suddenly gone public in a big way. Why, and what other branches are on this tech tree?


https://nypost.com/2026/04/07/us-news/g ... g-mission/
WASHINGTON — The CIA used a futuristic new tool called “Ghost Murmur” to find and rescue the second American airman who was shot down in southern Iran, The Post has learned.

The secret technology uses long-range quantum magnetometry to find the electromagnetic signal of a human heartbeat and pairs the data with artificial intelligence software to isolate the signature from background noise, two sources close to the breakthrough said.

It was the tool’s first use in the field by the spy agency — and was alluded to Monday afternoon by President Trump and CIA Director John Ratcliffe at a White House briefing.

“It’s like hearing a voice in a stadium, except the stadium is a thousand square miles of desert,” a source briefed on the program told The Post. “In the right conditions, if your heart is beating, we will find you.”

This source and another with knowledge of Lockheed Martin intelligence collection tools told The Post that Ghost Murmur was developed by Skunk Works, the aerospace giant’s secretive advanced development division. The company declined to comment.

The technology has been successfully tested on Black Hawk helicopters for future potential use on F-35 fighter jets, the second source said.

The missing and wounded weapons systems officer — known publicly only as “Dude 44 Bravo” — was hiding in a mountain crevice after his F-15 jet was shot down late last week, surviving two days in desolate terrain as Iranian troops scoured the area for the American with a bounty on his head.

The relatively barren landscape made for “an ideal first operational use” of Ghost Murmur, the first source said.

“The name is deliberate. ‘Murmur’ is a clinical term for a heart rhythm. ‘Ghost’ refers to finding someone who, for all practical purposes, has disappeared,” the source said.

It was “about as clean an environment as you could ask for” because of low electromagnetic interference, “almost no competing human signatures, and at night the thermal contrast between a living body and the desert floor,” which “gave operators a secondary confirmation layer.”

“Normally this signal is so weak that it can only be measured in a hospital setting with sensors pressed nearly against the chest,” the source said.

“But advances in a field known as quantum magnetometry — specifically sensors built around microscopic defects in synthetic diamonds — have apparently made it possible to detect these signals at dramatically greater distances.”

“The capability is not omniscient. It works best in remote, low-clutter environments and requires significant processing time,” this person said.

It was unclear to The Post’s sources how long the processing time was in this use. It’s also unclear if the technology may have additional wartime offensive uses.

Although the missing airman had activated a Boeing-made Combat Survivor Evader Locator beacon, his precise whereabouts remained unclear to search-and-rescue teams.

A pivotal moment in the mission came when Ghost Murmur detected the aviator — with the first source describing the two technologies as both being useful.

“He had to come out [of the crevice] to send the beacon,” the first source said. “It was less important the signal they sent and more important that he had to come out to send [it].”

‘A needle in a haystack’

Trump and Ratcliffe hinted at the new technology while briefing the press on the dramatic mission, which included hundreds of US troops and two rescue planes getting stuck in a field, requiring more planes and the destruction of the stranded jets — with no American casualties.

Ratcliffe, who took no reporter questions at the briefing, said that on Saturday morning, the spy agency “achieved our primary objective by finding and providing confirmation that one of America’s best and bravest was alive and concealed in a mountain crevice — still invisible to the enemy, but not to the CIA.”

“That confirmation was relayed by Secretary [of War Pete] Hegseth to the president, and the operation quickly moved to the execution phase,” the CIA director said.

Trump told the press that the CIA spotted the missing American from “40 miles away,” though it was unclear if he was referring to the tool’s initial detection distance or subsequent observations — or if the president’s citation was precise.

“It’s like finding a needle in a haystack, finding this pilot, and the CIA was unbelievable,” Trump said Monday. “The CIA was very responsible for finding this little speck.”

The president said Ratcliffe “did a phenomenal job that night — he did something that I don’t know if you want to talk about it. If you want, you can. I’m not sure he’s supposed to.”

The president joked that the technology “might be classified, in which case I’d have to put him in jail if he talks about it and I don’t want to put him in jail. He doesn’t deserve that.”

Trump himself has revealed the contours of secret new technologies — including telling The Post in January that he deployed a weapon called “The Discombobulator” to disable Venezuelan defenses during the Jan. 3 raid that captured dictator Nicolas Maduro to face US drug and weapons charges.

The secret nature of Ghost Murmur was “basically why everyone’s been so cagey about how [the airman] was actually found,” the first source said.

“I don’t think people even know this technology is possible from this distance.”
Maybe Trump really is the Disclosure President. I imagine some people are not very happy that he talked about this.



Edit: Searching my Cosmic Token archive, I find one hit for "heartbeat": not Ray Lavas, but this story posted by "Jess" in 2016:

https://phys.org/news/2016-01-pitter-pa ... radar.html
Heartbeats can now be measured without placing sensors on the body, thanks to a new technology developed in Japan. Researchers at the Kyoto University Center of Innovation, together with Panasonic Corp, have come up with a way to measure heartbeats remotely, in real time, and under controlled conditions with as much accuracy as electrocardiographs.

The researchers say this will allow for the development of "casual sensing"—taking measurements as people go about their daily activities, for instance, when they are going to bed or getting ready to start the day.

"Taking measurements with sensors on the body can be stressful and troublesome, because you have to stop what you're doing," says Hiroyuki Sakai, a researcher at Panasonic. "What we tried to make was something that would offer people a way to monitor their body in a casual and relaxed environment."

The added convenience of remote sensing, the team believes, will be an incentive for people to monitor their health status for their own benefit.

The remote sensing system combines millimeter-wave spread-spectrum radar technology and a unique signal analysis algorithm that identify signals from the body.

"Heartbeats aren't the only signals the radar catches. The body sends out all sorts of signals at once, including breathing and body movement. It's a chaotic soup of information," says Toru Sato, professor of communications and computer engineering at Kyoto University. "Our algorithm differentiates all of that. It extracts waves characteristic of heart beats from the radar signal and calculates their intervals."

The team hopes that the remote sensing system, with further experimentation, will be put to practical use in the near future.

"Now that we know that remote sensing is possible, we'll need to make the measurement ability more robust so that the system can monitor subjects in various age ranges and in many different contexts"
To which Linda replied:
I can see the benefits of that "remote sensing" of heartbeats but in the more nefarious channels I worry....why would it not be possible... if you can "read" and sense the heartbeats... could you also send out other signals which would interfere with those processes? If you have a system that can be a sensor for those bodily signals then can you also have a system that sends those signals?

Its a two way street, I would think.
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Nate, the airman must be thanking his lucky stars that he went down in a noise free area. But now the secret is out, the next time a pilot goes down, the region will be blanketed with jamming signals.

Linda is not alone in worrying about the dark side applications of this. humankind opened a Pandora’s box with radio detection..

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Re: Ghost Murmur and Quantum Magnetometry

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Hey Kids...

I dropped in this morning to do some house cleaning and found this "Ghost Murmur" thread. I asked the Mystic Oracle (aka Anthropic / Claude) if it could find any corroboration of the Post's account. This is what I got:

What's confirmed: The rescue itself is real. The airman, identified publicly only as "Dude 44 Bravo," ejected from an F-15E Strike Eagle and spent two days hiding in a mountain crevice while Iranian forces searched the area. He had activated a Combat Survivor Evader Locator (CSEL) beacon, but his precise location remained uncertain to rescue teams. And at the White House briefing, CIA Director Ratcliffe said the CIA "achieved our primary objective by finding and providing confirmation that one of America's best and bravest was alive and concealed in a mountain crevice — still invisible to the enemy, but not to the CIA." SOFXThe Sunday Guardian

What's not confirmed: The "Ghost Murmur" details come entirely from the NY Post's anonymous sources. As the Wes O'Donnell piece lays out clearly, Ratcliffe's actual words were that the CIA used "exquisite technologies" — he never said "Ghost Murmur," "heartbeat," or "quantum magnetometry." All the other coverage you'll find traces back to the same NY Post story with the same anonymous sources, so it's one claim being amplified, not independently corroborated.

What scientists say: According to Scientific American, physicists who study magnetic fields say the technology as publicly described finds no support in decades of peer-reviewed physics, even with AI assistance. One physicist noted that while quantum magnetometry is real and being explored for medical uses, "none of that is something that works over ranges of many miles." Scientific American

The Scientific American piece floats a few possible explanations: it could be someone "yanking a reporter's chain," a clever way of saying "I'm not going to tell you how we actually found him," or deliberate disinformation to make adversaries think the U.S. has capabilities it doesn't. Scientific American

Bottom line: the rescue happened, and the CIA did play a role using some classified capability. But "Ghost Murmur" as described — detecting a heartbeat from 40 miles across desert terrain — is a single-source claim that physicists find implausible on its face. Healthy skepticism is warranted.
Take that for whatever it's worth. Maybe Anthropic is the AI involved and they're covering their tracks.

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Hey, Paul!

It is good to “see” you out and about.

The introduction of this topic has shaken a couple of faint recalls, out of my memory tree.
At the time I came into the story, Twigsnapper was a fully fleshed character, to me because presence on the forum, and as Boston, in The Parallel Universe. Very shortly after that, Linda and I discovered that we were near neighbors..

I volunteered to test Raymond’s Psychopropulsier device, and we made arrangements to meet for the handoff at the corner gas station and we hit it off, immediately, because who could not love Linda?

We met for the first of many lunches to come,the swap meet burger bar that weekend. I recall that when she took her phone out of her purse and put it on the table, her explanation that she was waiting for George to call seemed self conscious and awkward. I believe now that was for
“Twigsnapper’s” benefit.

A few weeks later, my husband and I were discussing the risks of about this type of detection whike we were tooling around ten, running errands. I can’t remember the question I posed, nor how the answer came back to me, but I think there was something in it about soldiers in enemy territory begin stripping off their uniforms very quickly, implying that the fabric was the signal emitter.


The Takeaway for me was that you never know who is listening!

I don’t know if my question was heard psychically. Or via a bug or a flipped switch on a cell phone.

but, according to Linda, “Twigsnapper sometimes communicated messages to her in the form of text that superimposed itself over whichever Windows app she was using.

In 2010/2011, this level of synchronous communications integration seemed impressive to me. Though Twigsnapper must have been getting on up there in age, he was not letting technology pass him by.

The other faint recollection that shook loose may not be relevant. In fact, it probably isn’t, but, early on in the Russia-Ukaraine War, Zelenskyy reported that Biden had delivered amuch needed high tech mission defense system, “And something else, too.” But, apparently, there would never be any more said about what that was.


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