This is pinging my Townsend-o-scope. Could it be the long-awaited first actual credentialled unclassified-world replication of something in the electrostatic weird-stuff department? Or yet another disappointment? One gravity of thrust in a lab is basically a moonshot level of success.
Note also the timeline. If this breakthrough began happening in 2022... when did the US Congress suddenly get scared about weird tech in private-corporate SAPs not being disclosed to them, and potential scooping of advanced propulsion technology by foreign countries because of that secrecy? Wasn't it last year, 2023, that something lit a fire under Chuck Schumer? Was it this?
I want to believe. I want to believe so very badly.
1942 (Townsend's Vega notebook) to 2022 is 80 years. Is it finally time?
The Tim Ventura Youtube interview : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsKMWOYuYo
The "The Debrief" article: https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-pr ... s-gravity/
Dr. Charles Buhler, a NASA engineer and the co-founder of Exodus Propulsion Technologies, has revealed that his company’s propellantless propulsion drive, which appears to defy the known laws of physics, has produced enough thrust to counteract Earth’s gravity.
A veteran of such storied programs as NASA’s Space Shuttle, the International Space Station (ISS), The Hubble Telescope, and the current NASA Dust Program, Buhler and his colleagues believe their discovery of a fundamental new force represents a historic breakthrough that will impact space travel for the next millennium.
“The most important message to convey to the public is that a major discovery occurred,” Buhler told The Debrief. “This discovery of a New Force is fundamental in that electric fields alone can generate a sustainable force onto an object and allow center-of-mass translation of said object without expelling mass.”
There are rules that include conservation of energy, but if done correctly, one can generate forces unlike anything humankind has done before,” Buhler added. “It will be this force that we will use to propel objects for the next 1,000 years… until the next thing comes.”
The Serendipity of Discovering the propellantless Propulsion Drive
To document his team’s discovery as well as the process behind their work, which Dr. Buhler cautions is in no way affiliated with NASA or the U.S. Government, the outwardly amiable researcher presented his findings at a recent Alternative Propulsion Energy Conference (APEC). Filled with both highly-credentialed career engineers and propulsion hobbyists, APEC is an organization The Debrief once referred to as the World’s Most Exclusive (And Strange) Anti-Gravity Club.
In conjunction with that presentation, “The Discovery of Propellantless Propulsion: The Direct Conversion of Electrical Energy into Physical Thrust,” Dr. Buhler also sat down with APEC co-founder and moderator Tim Ventura to explain how his past in electrostatics, which is his primary area of expertise, ended up being a key component of his discovery of this new force.
“You are NASA’s subject matter expert in electrostatics,” Ventura clarified in the first part of the interview. “So, if anyone would know about conventional explanations for anomalous measurements (for the measured thrust), it would be you, right?”
“That’s true,” Buhler conceded with an outwardly humble shrug.
A quick look at Dr. Buhler’s background confirms that he is indeed one of NASA’s top experts in electrostatics. In addition to overseeing the management of electrostatic discharge (ESD) and ESD safety for the Space Shuttle, the ISS, and Hubble, Dr. Buhler also established NASA’s Electrostatics and Surface Physics Laboratory at Kennedy Space Center.
His Exodus Propulsion Technologies team is equally impressive. According to a slide from his APEC presentation, “the Team consists of a mix of engineers and scientists from NASA, Blue Origin, Air Force, ExxonMobil as well as successful legal and businessmen.”
Somewhat surprisingly, Buhler says that when he and his colleagues first began looking into propellantless propulsion ideas over two decades ago, they did not expect electrostatics to be the answer. Instead, he and his team explored other avenues for as many as 25 years before landing on electrostatics as the key to unlocking the door of this new force.
“Nature has its own way of doing things,” Buhler explained, “and it is our job to uncover what nature does. It just happened to fall into my lap in what I’m the expert in.”
“Our materials are composed of many types of charge carrier coatings that have to be supported on a dielectric film,” Buhler told The Debrief. “Our aim is to make it as lightweight as possible, but that is sometimes difficult since the films and their coatings have to have a high dielectric breakdown strength.”
After employing these new designs, the next series of tests produced even more encouraging results. The team once again confirmed the thrust, but the new approach resulted in an order of magnitude jump to one ten-thousandth of a gravity. This was still not enough to leave the planet, but it was enough to know they were on the right track.
Breakthrough in 2023 Produces One Gravity of Thrust
With an end seemingly within sight, the team immediately began to try newer and better designs. They continued to measure thrust while also pretty much ruling out every conventional explanation they could come up with. This was not anything they had ever measured before.
Then, in 2022, something astounding happened. According to Buhler, his team began to see significant jumps in the force being generated.
A quick look at a chart he presented to APEC shows that tests performed between early 2022 and November 2023 resulted in a rapid climb, moving from one thousandth, one hundredth, and even one-tenth of gravity all the way up to one full Earth gravity. This means that their current devices, which Buhler told The Debrief “weigh somewhere between 30-40 grams on their own” without the attached test equipment, were producing enough thrust to counteract the full force of one Earth gravity.
Now that surprises me. One of my long-time causes of skepticism (combined with faint hope) toward the Townsend Brown mythology is that I assumed electrostatics was extremely well explored and that there must be lots of experts - and therefore that Townsend's weird force might not have many places to hide. Yet here's an actual NASA electrostatics expert saying there aren't many others!“Knowledge of gas breakdown, corona generation, brush discharges, streamers, glow discharges, plasma physics, etc., is usually too much for engineers to bear alone,” he told The Debrief, “and the number of experts in Electrostatics is very, very few.
That poses the question: Why are there so few experts in electrostatics? It's not like it's a hard thing to study, compared to say particle physics! What's stopping physics departments from getting interested in this extremely obvious subject? It's literally where electricity began!
Another unusual result from their tests was that sometimes the tested devices did not require a constant input of electrical charge to maintain their thrust. Given that the device already appears to violate the known laws of physics by creating thrust without propellant, this result even stumped Dr. Buhler and his team.
“We can see some of these things sit on a scale for days, and if they still have charge in them, they are still producing thrust,” he told Ventura. “It’s very hard to reconcile, from a scientific point of view because it does seem to violate a lot of energy laws that we have.”
These sound like all the hallmarks of Townsend's tech.“You can’t deny this,” he told Ventura. “There’s not a lot to this. You’re just charging up Teflon, copper tape, and foam, and you have this thrust.”
So, while his team believes their experiments speak for themselves, the veteran scientist says he also believes it is the job of science to analyze and understand this discovery. If successful, he thinks it may even address some of the harder questions in science, including the nature of dark energy or even space/time itself.
“It’s easy to make these things,” he said, “so it’s a tool for the scientific community to use to try to explore those hard questions.”
Reddit UFOs forum discussions (multiple):
https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/ ... of_thrust/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/ ... oaNGem3cec
The patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020159603A2/en
Ah, it's that "electrostatic pressure force" one we've seen before. Interesting. I had shelved that as probably being just one weird guy with a strange "loophole in physics" idea, but.....
Nate