NOTEPAD for RANDOM IDEAS

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Re: NOTEPAD for RANDOM IDEAS

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AM2 wrote:
Mr. Static wrote:Is the reward worth the price of a ticket?
A very good point!

And if you cannot change anything, then the only purpose for which a FTM would be good is to get knowledge. Otherwise you cannot do much with it.

AM
Or give knowledge, where it is needed.
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Sigh,

Guess many be chasing me around with baseball bats!

So AM, what good is obtaining knowledge in that manner. Knowledge gained without the pain of understanding and the experience of using it the most dangerous of creatures. I say this because the acquisition of information which you have not earned the right to use can cause more damage and misuse than not knowing that information in the first place.

I personally would be more afraid of a man in possession of knowledge that he thinks that he understands how to use than one with a weapon pointed at my head.

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AM2 wrote:
And if you cannot change anything, then the only purpose for which a FTM would be good is to get knowledge. Otherwise you cannot do much with it.

AM
AM, I am disappointed in that answer. If you cannot change anything than the whole story of Morgan going back to 1936 is kaput.

Oh, here is some food, a submarine would make a poor FTM. kevinb I believe may know but will he say?

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Linda B.,

Im sorry if I was not clear and for now I think I will leave it at that. I do agree that words on paper cannot properly express the meanings and feelings we all have on this topic. I do think that a round table discussion on this topic with the people in this forum would be a facinating, interesting and rewarding for all of us.

As long as we all did not have baseball bats... hahah :mrgreen:

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AM2 wrote:
AM, I am disappointed in that answer. If you cannot change anything than the whole story of Morgan going back to 1936 is kaput.

Oh, here is some food, a submarine would make a poor FTM. kevinb I believe may know but will he say?
Who said that going back to 1936 necessarily meant effecting a change and that it was not a perfectly "natural" course of events?

Who said that the Cutlass was a FTM or THE FTM?

Again quoting chapter 76.
Chapter 76 wrote:“The technology,” Morgan continued, more than forty years after that first conversation with Townsend Brown about saving his little sister, “is a time machine. A way of reaching forward, and back; Of traveling between dimensions that are available to us. Now you can see that it is also… above our capabilities spiritually.”
Morgan didn't say with a word that the Cutlass itself was the FTM. He just said that the technology (sic!) applied to the Cutlass is a or the FTM.

One more thing - why did Morgan say: "...dimensions that are available to us."? Which dimensions are then available to us and which are not? Why did Morgan use this diction?

AM
I wrote a long response and spent an amount of time to point out your difficiencies as well but it isn't worth playing games with you.

Here's something to think about:

Do you honestly believe that in your asking a question such as "What makes you so sure?" that I will give a full answer? If you do, you are VERY naive and further, I know you, you are never satisfied with one answer because that one ends up leading to two more questions and then four etc.

I will make this very easy for you to accept,.....I lied, I know nothing.


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First Mr. Zimmer let me clarify if I led you to see that spiritual awareness itself means a higher moral fiber. There are spiritual entities of lower morals, and they are just that, lower spiritual beings. What I was inferring is that as we raise our awareness to spirit, and as we become of higher spirit, we are embracing a spirituality of a higher order, and as such, we are by nature of that achievement of a higher moral fiber.

An example I can give, although as Ms. Brown has pointed out, words simply are not adequate to convey such thoughts, is that of the Dalai Lama as opposed to that of a preacher. The former has never to the best of my knowledge tried to convince me of his way as being the RIGHT way, or the only way. On the other hand, a preacher tells me that if I do not accept the beliefs which he is preaching, I am certain to burn in hell. The former being a man of higher spiritual awareness, the latter being a man with an agenda who professes to know what spirituality is, while he still sins and asks for forgiveness.

I have no time for religion for I see that as another form of ruling the masses. But I do what I feel is of spirituality and of raising my being to a higher plane. That my friend is how I choose to live my life. I had a discussion a while back with Mr. Mikado in which he asked me if I would not want to be compensated for my efforts. At the time I and he were speaking only about financial compensation, although as i look back on it, I now realize that we were coming from different places. Surely one's efforts is to be justly compensated for, however it is not always in the illusion of fame and fortune. There are many rich and famous people that live in misery, because they are not living life in a higher spiritual plane and have no love in their lives.

Our history, mythology and science fiction stories are replete with those of great powers and are "evil" , who are defeated by those of good moral character, winning because of love and kindness. A Mother Theresa I am not, but I am no Hitler or Stalin either. I do not profess to know what is best for others, nor do I feel that my way is the path others must follow. I do know that based on experience, the more love I give the more I have in my own life. The more I treat others with kindness, the more kindness comes to me from others. Perhaps all those wise and great men and women that came before us knew this, but as Ms. Brown stated, the meaning gets lost in the words.

But it is true that our thoughts have energy and we attract what we put out into the universe. I used t o think that I was a loving and caring person and that I wasn't getting my fair share. I have come to see that I get what I put out. When I give without conditions or expectations, then I do get back in kind. I don't know why it works that way, but it just works that way. We can examine electromagnetics or electrogravitics and use science to understand how some of these things work. But when we are dealing with the "science" of being, we are dealing with forces that transcend the physical realms.

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AM2 wrote: It is not necessary to cite your hidden sources - in the book itself there is enough material to support also your position.
The book is more speculation with NO Technology or explanation of such.

The material you cite, in a court of law, is all circumstantial, there is no bullet and not even the smoking gun. Show me the machine.

The term FTM in Cook's book is in reference to the Nazi's. Now tell me why we should believe Morgan? He faked a death once and to me, his crediblity is tarnished, but then, so is mine and I feel in good company.



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Your know something AM? You are a real work of art. Do you know why? Because you go and edit your posts without making notation of such and thus you go back and change what you said to prove your point.

I just posted and went to see my post and lo and behold, you added more to your closing sentence just like where you deleted the name Cutlass from a previous post.

I just wish I would have saved the quotes to prove my point.

You already have your own little private time machine.

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This is how I usually edit, I preserve the original post so as not to confuse others. However, I usually keep the same color and font but I put this particular edit, just for you (..see how special you are to me!) in red since you like to change fonts and show color....a lot!
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A turning point. August 1941.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Oliphant

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Smyth ... ndex.shtml
(Atomic energy for military purposes1945)

esp http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Smyth ... ix_1.shtml

which includes

"THE PROCESS OF IONIZATON

When a high-speed charged particle like an alpha particle or a high-speed electron passes through matter, it disrupts the molecules that it strikes by reason of the electrical forces between the charged particle and the electrons in the molecule. If the material is gaseous, the resultant fragments or ions may move apart and, if there is an electric field present, the electrons knocked out of the molecules move in one direction and the residual positive ions in another direction. A beta particle with a million electron volts energy will produce some 18,000 ionized atoms before it is stopped completely since on the average it uses up about 60 volts energy in each ionizing collision. Since each ionization process gives both a positive and a negative ion, there is a total of 36,000 charges set free by one high-speed electron, but since each charge is only 1.6 x 10-19 coulomb, the total is only about 6 X 10-15 coulomb and is still very minute. The best galvanometer can be made to measure a charge of about 10-10 coulomb. It is posssible to push the sensitivity of an electrometer to about 10-16 coulomb but the electrometer is a very inconvenient instrument to use."

Ok this information is old. So is the language of its explanation. The language was appropriate to the tenor of the times. The times have changed.

Funny that.

So what does a galvanometer measure?

"An alpha particle produces amounts of ionization comparable with the beta particle. It is stopped more rapidly, but it produces more ions per unit of path. A gamma ray is much less efficient as an ionizer since the process is quite different. It does occasionally set free an electron from a molecule by Compton scattering or the photoelectric effect, and this secondary electron has enough energy to produce ionization. A neutron, as we have already mentioned in the text, produces ionization only indirectly by giving high velocity to a nucleus by elastic collision, or by disrupting a nucleus with resultant ionization by the fragments.

If we are to detect the ionizing effects of these particles, we must evidently use the resultant effect of a great many particles or have very sensitive means of measuring electric currents.
THE ELECTROSCOPE

Essentially the electroscope determines to what degree the air immediately around it has become conducting as the result of the ions produced in it.

The simplest form of electroscope is a strip of gold leaf a few centimeters long, suspended by a hinge from a vertical insulated rod. If the rod is charged, the gold leaf also takes up the same charge and stands out at an angle as a result of the repulsion of like charges. As the charge leaks away, the leaf gradually swings down against the rod, and the rate at which it moves is a measure of the conductivity of the air surrounding it.******

A more rugged form of electroscope was devised by C. C Lauritsen, who substituted a quartz fiber for the gold leaf and used the elasticity of the fiber as the restoring force instead of gravity. The fiber is made conducting by a thin coating of metal. Again the instrument is charged, and the fiber, after initial deflection, gradually comes back to its uncharged position. The position of the fiber is read in a low-power microscope. These instruments can be made portable and rugged and fairly sensitive. They are the standard field instrument for testing the level of gamma radiation, particularly as a safeguard against dangerous exposure."

****this is the penlike thing Linda etc had in their lab coats.


Note this well : "A measure of the conductivity of the air surrounding it"

The atomic bomb sits over the information like an eagle over a precious brood.
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