htmagic wrote:
And I saw this:
http://au.geocities.com/psyberplasmic/ccX-6.html wrote:Another discussion will detail the process for generating and storing extremely high voltage power in the form of plasmoids... (or self-containing plasmas), voltage transforming capacitors, and the rudiments of wireless broadcast of electricity to users around the entire planet... through the use of overlapping VLF standing wave power broadcast network.
So how low for very low frequency (VLF)? Wikipedia says 3 kHz to 30 kHz and the low end is in the audio region. Tesla was working with earth frequencies of around 7.8 Hz. Schumann later discovered the cavity that bears his name. Hmmmm, 3 kHz to 30 kHz, wasn't that the band used to talk to
submarines? So the submarine did the lurking while the UFO was high above watching everything. Was this used prior to satellites or are they still in use today?
Hmm, that might be conceivable. A one-two reconnaissance punch? Reconnaissance is about the only thing I can think of that would justify deep black secrecy for a real vehicle. And in any case, we've got satellites. What would one of these give you that a satellite wouldn't? (Well, darn near immediate tasking, for one. And the ability to drop either an A-bomb or conventional munitions anywhere, for another. Which means the B-2 would have been obsolete in the 1970s. So why build them? Doesn't add up. Unless there's some Achilles heel, such that they're useful UNLESS their operating principle is unknown. External power source that can be taken out too easily, maybe?)
My problem is that I've lived with this diagram since I was a teenager, and I still go round in circles on it. I suspect that a lot of that text (particularly about the VLF waves) is Deyo's own private interpolation based on researching Tesla and thinking there was a connection - and not necessarily from the same source as the rest of the stuff. He gives an air of being all-knowing, yet seems to be groping in the dark with fragments just as much as anyone else. That attitude of his annoys me. I wish he'd just come out and say 'this is what I know, and this is what I suspect, and the two are not the same.'
I've also seen a LOT of purported 'UFO diagrams' which like to have that three-pod layout, etc. Before Close Encounters, that's what all UFOs 'had' to look like. It's all very Adamski, though this admittedly is a much more streamlined, jet-age look. But it sort of feels to me more like a somewhat fanciful reverse engineering of what an ion-powered saucer craft MIGHT look like given the known tech of the day (1960s-1970s) and some speculative stuff.
Or maybe it's for real, and it's a very sketchy details-lite 'sales brochure' type of photo.
I am curious about these plasmoids. Was this chamber an evacuated vessel? This looks similar to the plasma diode we discussed elsewhere. Was this the tunnel diode and seeded with cesium? This is the heart of the system but what created the high voltage for the plasma diode? Was this where Dr. Brown's electrokinetic generator was used?
Your guess is as good as mine. I presume the idea is to use the plasmoid as a sort of supercapacitor in its own right, pump it up with electrons, then use the turbine to keep it charged. Maybe a flame jet generator or an RTG as internal power source to keep it topped up? A lot of thought seems to have gone into not so much how to make it *fly*, but how to make it fly *efficiently*. Which suggests to me that if real, this is a second or third generation take on an already well-proven concept.
And that's where I boggle. If you have a super vehicle like this, then bury it in secrecy - it just seems such a waste. You tie your hands in so many ways. You can't ever show yourself. You can't use mainstream contractors. You can't sell it, or bid for cargo contracts. You can't even engage in dogfights with an aggressor nation that would reveal you to have this capability. You have to sneak, and lurk, and run away. Use it as a last-ditch 'doomsday weapon', maybe. But that doesn't put oil in your gas tank. An elite cadre of super-warriors? They'd get mighty lonely and mighty bored living in their mineshaft or their moonbase.
A replacement for the U2 - maybe.
And yet. It matches Brown's 1958 sketches, at least in essence. I can't put my common-sense hat and my gee-whiz conspiracy hat on together.
Okay, conspiracy hat now on. We stopped officially going to the moon with chemical rockets in 1972, right? Now, if I were the USAF, and I had developed an 'independent' next-generation spaceflight capability which was not quite working before the start of Apollo, but by the end of Apollo had proven itself as an exoatmospheric vehicle... what might I do? Well, for one, I would lose all interest in conventional manned spaceflight. Because it would be obsolete for military purposes. And I'd not really want to keep drawing attention to deep space. I'd keep the low-orbit stuff going, but for exploring the moon and the rest of the planets - I'd use my fancy ships, and I'd keep the civilian space program further and further out of the loop.
See, but be careful there. I'm painting what I think is a plausible scenario, but I'm a sci-fi fan - I do this sort of thing in my sleep, for *fun*. I *love* looking for shadows to hide alternate histories in, because gee-whiz toys are cool. Doesn't mean they really exist or that the USAF *has* that capacity. I just really, really want these things to exist. Maybe too much.
But it would sure explain why the moon, after being The Most Important Thing Ever, suddenly stopped being interesting just as fast after 1972.
It *wouldn't*, however, explain why we continue to have a) the USAF and NRO launching lots of classified satellites on good old chemical rockets - if they have a fancy ship, you'd expect the number of classified payloads to drop. b) why various chemical spaceplane projects keep popping up and getting cancelled - they might be cover for black military projects, but if you have an electric ship, spaceplane research is obsolete just like rockets are, c) why we keep sending probes to Mars - it's only the moon we seem to have got bored with. If I could go faster than C, Mars would be my first stop, and I'd want all the civilian probes out of my way. d) Why UFO reports have been around before 1958. Unless they're time visits from USAF personnel circa 1960-now.
I would expect a deployed craft of this nature to leave an unusual and rather distinctive hole in the US military/space lineup. I would expect there to be a whole range of fairly obvious missions that should be happening, but apparently aren't. Do we in fact see that in the publically visible record, or not? I see holes, yes, but (common sense hat back on) I'm not sure I see the *right* holes.
Conspiracy hat again: If I were the USAF or other military unit and I did have a perfectly mundane but secret ship like this - here's one explanation why I might not reveal it. Massive public and scientific outrage and backlash when they find out that NASA and the commercial space industry has been essentially a fraud. Originally, it might have been a legitimate black project like any other, but then maybe a decision was made to bury it 'just in case', say in he 1960s. A backup plan. Come the 1970s, and in the changed public climate, growing disillusionment with government, detente with the USSR, Nixon flamed out, hardliners dropped to the side and furious at what they see as an imminent wave of chaos about to sweep the West - maybe a strategic call was made that 'it's best we keep this under wraps for now'. And then, as time went by, to the 80s, they felt that they couldn't reveal it now because the backlash would destroy democracy. So they keep it hidden not because it's useful, but because it's a political hot potato that nobody wants bubbling to the surface on their watch.
Dunno. Everyone's so fond of Area 51, I could see them going public and not a hair turning, all the tech geeks going 'yay'. But maybe this is why Morgan approached Paul. Maybe it's a 'controlled release' strategy to sweep out some of those closets and test the waters before they come clean.
Conspiracy hat off.