Thomas Townsend Brown Effect

For a discussion of the science of Townsend Brown, his experiments and his ideas.
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Roger that!

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At a rough guess something like;

The TTB effect;

The ### force manifests as a naturally proportional consequence of resultant interactions occurring between what science presently understands as the electron and the structural entities contained within an atoms core, due to naturally occurring atomic imbalances in primary charge interactions. The manifestation of the imbalance may be further enhanced by use of specially constructed devices utilising planar surfaces directly enclosing high K dielectric materials as the primary medium for constraining and extracting said manifestation from applied energies. The ### displays a mathematically increasing proportional unidirectional dipole with resultant momentum respecting quantities and inherent values of applied electromotive energies. The manifestation also exhibits interrelated torsional effects upon its immediate vicinity resulting an anomalous related observations requiring more extensive study.
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Arc,
Little Miss Muffet,
sat on Her tuffet,
Eating Her curds and whey,
When a spider came down beside Her,
And frightened Miss Muffet away.

http://keelynet.com/spider/b-119e.htm
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kevin.b wrote:Arc,
Little Miss Muffet,
sat on Her tuffet,
Eating Her curds and whey,
When a spider came down beside Her,
And frightened Miss Muffet away.

http://keelynet.com/spider/b-119e.htm
Kevin
Kevin,

But I like cottage cheese!
That was quite an interesting link, sir!
But so is the next page!
http://keelynet.com/spider/b-120e.htm

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Re: Thomas Townsend Brown Effect

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arc wrote:At a rough guess something like;

The TTB effect;

The ### force manifests as a naturally proportional consequence of resultant interactions occurring between what science presently understands as the electron and the structural entities contained within an atoms core, due to naturally occurring atomic imbalances in primary charge interactions. The manifestation of the imbalance may be further enhanced by use of specially constructed devices utilising planar surfaces directly enclosing high K dielectric materials as the primary medium for constraining and extracting said manifestation from applied energies. The ### displays a mathematically increasing proportional unidirectional dipole with resultant momentum respecting quantities and inherent values of applied electromotive energies. The manifestation also exhibits interrelated torsional effects upon its immediate vicinity resulting an anomalous related observations requiring more extensive study.
That was interesting, can you post a link? I would like to read more.

Thanks,

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I like the pictures in this link, especially the PINCH one , it definately looks like a spider?
There's mkado's triangle, as I think of it.
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal ... effect.htm
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kevin.b wrote:I like the pictures in this link, especially the PINCH one , it definately looks like a spider?
There's mkado's triangle, as I think of it.
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal ... effect.htm
kevin

kevin, an error exists in the following:

Experiments show the intensity of the effect to be dependent on several factors:

1. the surface area of the plates
2. the voltage differential between the plates
3. the proximity of the plates to each other
4. the material mass between the plates
5. the dielectric capacity between the plates


Since you have "dowsed" this out, I will leave it to you figure out what it is.

Also, some of the math doesn't hold up in application due to the errors of above. As I know that you know there are areas in the universe of high K and high mu.

As far as the sections involving space warping, I cannot comment at this time.

Keep dowsing and by the way, your right, the triangles are essentially the same.

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Gregg, sorry but there's no link to this one, they are my own thoughts and words

If your interested though in similar reading then look for a paper entitled "Propulsion through electromagnetic self-sustained acceleration" by Vesselin Petkov on the http://arxiv.org website
Also another one entitled "Propulsion without propellant mass:a time-varying electromagnetic field effect" by Benoit T Guay on the same site. The maths is unfortunately above my head but I have sat with highlighter pen and marked the conceptual details and drew lines all over the papers, they provoke quite some thinking. The concepts of advancing wave fronts of energy arise as you read them.

Mikado, My money is on option 1
Reasoning; If the others stay the same then no matter how large the plates are, you are still stuck with Oliver’s question.

Kevin,
The triangle on the web page with electricity/magnetism/gravity on each corner respectively, also labelled electro-magnetism and electro-gravitation,and missing a label on the bottom line, begs the question is there an undefined magnetism-gravitation link effect with its own set of dynamic properties?. If so then the last question would be if you drew a line from each corner of the triangle directly into the center of the triangle and all three lines met at the one central junction point, would this be the fourth logical point and could it be labelled "time"?.

MagicBill,
That page is interesting, makes me think energy density.


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WHEW! YOU GUYS ARE GOOD. Linda
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Mikado14,
I knew you were lurking, thankfully.
I am concentrating on the centre point of the triangle, not the maths, thats for accountants.
Kings chamber, zome, dimensions.
I get strange looks in the British museum, when I start tapping the so called sarcofogases(can't spell )
then dowsing the result.
The sound of music?
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Mikado14 wrote:
kevin, an error exists in the following:

Experiments show the intensity of the effect to be dependent on several factors:

1. the surface area of the plates
2. the voltage differential between the plates
3. the proximity of the plates to each other
4. the material mass between the plates
5. the dielectric capacity between the plates


Since you have "dowsed" this out, I will leave it to you figure out what it is.

Mikado
Mikado,

I have built (and destroyed, ha!) capacitors in that past. The capacitors are dependent upon the area of the plates, voltages, dielectrics, and the distance between the plates. I don't ever remember calculating the material mass between the plates. So I would say #4 is the error you are referring to.

Arc, you discussed the magnetic-gravitation link and you are correct as it was not labeled. But there is a link there. Look on my refrigerator and you can see all those papers defying gravity every hour of every day just by those magnets attached to it! <g> :lol:

Yes, I wondered if there was a central point, as the triangular diagram reminded me of the triangular phase diagrams we used in chemical engineering.

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kevin.b wrote:Mikado14,
I knew you were lurking, thankfully.
I am concentrating on the centre point of the triangle, not the maths, thats for accountants.
Kings chamber, zome, dimensions.
I get strange looks in the British museum, when I start tapping the so called sarcofogases(can't spell )
then dowsing the result.
The sound of music?
Doh a dear a female dear.
Behind all great men, is a great woman, We all KNOW who is that on here.
Kevin
kevin, you are one of the reasons that I lurk. I have a bit of some time on my hands as I wait for others to perform so....I lurk and look and read. One must always be aware of their surroundings.

The triangle - I would rather call it a three sided pyramid which I discussed with someone here once on the eve of a departure. All pyramids must have a capstone. If you look at my pyramid, you will notice that it is three dimensional as viewed from the top down. The fear is not so much when you turn on the light switch but when you turn it off.

Take care my English ...or was it Latvian?....friend,

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Kevin

Looking again at the web page the diagram looks just like the experiments we used to do in highschool. The water baths with various holes and slits in the interruption walls. I remember the various patterns we used to get in the water with some waves disappearing due to adding opposite waveforms and other waves being twice the height due to positive reinforcement of colliding waves. It makes one think of harmonics and wonder if the simple use of frequencies with much lower voltages and power ratios than the TTB effect could achieve the same end result. Could there be a definitive frequency (or combination) that cancels the effect of gravity?.

Mikado
Three sided pyramid, now thats interesting. you have something there. A three sided pyramid will have 4 sides when you also count the fact that it sits on one of the faces as a base, we live in a 3+1 dimension world. x,y,z,+time, Do you think that if you manipulate one of the corners then by nature you will impact the others as well, so a deliberate deformation of one (or 2) side(s) may lopside the overall shape resulting in unbalanced actions.

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Arc,
Read through this,
http://www.svpvril.com/svpweb39.html
Think of mikado's pyramid, think harmonically, now what did Dr Brown keep playing, sound of music?
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And this is from that site!
AN ODE TO A NODE ON THE ROAD UNKNOWED

Ben Iverson, (1985)

I was eager and young and searching for knowledge
Where best to search? I enrolled in a college.
The professor was quick with integrated array,
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Tote up the polygon, Gross, Net, and Tare.
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Small things ignored, then white becomes black.

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Bishop Diego de Landa destroyed the Mayan word.

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Of the way things should be, and not subject to whim.
For Paradise Lost, the secret's within.

We need sum and difference and prime numbers too,
Along with multiplication to obtain answers true.
We need little more,
To rule the store,
Of the true natural math which the ancients knew.

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Solves all of its problems; Puts each in its station,
As part of the whole of which it is a part,
So, even in Science, Math's where we must start.

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That science works for us. We all have a say,
To search for a node,
On this unknown Road.
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The way it's intended, like a sunny day.
We will do all we can, avoid a mistake.
Develop it well, our future's at stake.

* Here this Ode,

to the wayward node,

Of math's own mode,

Found as we strode,

on the unknown Road,

Comes to an end,

Of this episode.

{Reprinted from "Pythagoras, And The Quantum World, Volume II"

Publisher - I.T.A.M. Portland , Ore.

- A Division of Delta Spectrum Research}

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