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French Flame Jets?

Postby Paul S. » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:54 pm

Mikado14 wrote:Did he use a Flame Jet Generator to produce his requirements? I would bet those navy beans he didn't. It was a dead end for him and was not his path.


Mikado, I can't say for certain (the whole "French vacuum test" thing is still pretty much a mystery...), but my best guess would be that he was using the "tethered saucer" approach to his tests in France, as he had with the demonstrations in Los Angeles a few years before he went to France. If that hunch is correct, then I might further surmise that the success of those tests in France was what mandated the need for some kind of "untethered" power source, which would have been the mother to the invention of the flame-jet generator.

Then, maybe something better came along in the mid-60s.

I suspect that there was also a difference between the devices tested in France and those demonstrated in Los Angeles: the difference between "solid" and "fluid" dielectrics.

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Re: me too

Postby Paul S. » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:57 pm

Victoria Steele wrote:I guess that Paul is going to leave us hanging for a bit and darned I thought when I saw that post that the new chapter was up. And what the heck does a token have anything to do with things? Darn!


You know how I HATE disappointing you, Victoria, but I figured better I said something than nothing. Maybe not?

As for the "token," do you need to re-read Chapter 46?

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Re: French Flame Jets?

Postby ETernalightwithin » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:31 pm

All the various accounts I've read, never say anything about fluid dynamics. What makes you thing Brown went from solid to fluid?

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Paul S. wrote:I suspect that there was also a difference between the devices tested in France and those demonstrated in Los Angeles: the difference between "solid" and "fluid" dielectrics.

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Postby Chris Knight » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:59 pm

The first gravitators used solid dielectric materials.

Depends on what effect you are trying to maximize. Air (gas) is a fluid. As is oil, water, and any liquid used in Brown's electrostatic fan/precipitator, oil pump, particle accelerator, etc.

Solid materials can act as fluids under certain conditions, such as when cohesionless or saturated.
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fluid

Postby Elizabeth Helen Drake » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:08 pm

ETLW,

I am sure not the scientist in the group to answer this but just from a laymans viewpoint. I look at his developments such as the fan / loudspeaker as an example of " fluid dynamics" ..... the " fluid " could also be .... oil ...... water .... as in the pumps .... or the air involved as in the "Ionic Breeze". I think one of the phrases used was " Electrohydrodynamics" I have also heard " Plasma Dynamics" All this is actually distantly related to but still different than what Dr. Brown called " Electrogravitics". Note that there are very few accounts where he ever used the word "antigravity."

Someone once said to me that our own bodies displayed a wondrous design of antigravity. What you say? Yes! Our own skeleton structure. Without it ..... we would be a human slug on the ground ... though I guess that would misuse the word "human" huh. Elizabeth
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Postby Rocky » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:43 am

Elizabeth

You are far closer to the truth about the human body having a wonderful “ antigravityâ€
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and if there is a link

Postby Elizabeth Helen Drake » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:50 am

And Rocky,

If then there is some kind of a link that parallels the actions of electromagnetics with gravity ( in what might be called "electrogravitics") how then would the human body respond to that? Elizabeth
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Postby kevin.b » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:46 pm

http://www.hfml.science.ru.nl/hfml/froglev.html
I like froglev,
it sounds like a russian scientist.
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Poor Frog

Postby greggvizza » Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:27 pm

16 Tesla!!!! Most MRI units are 1.5 Tesla. The most advanced high-field research units are 4 Tesla. All as I can say is; that poor frog. That can’t be healthy.

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Postby kevin.b » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:10 pm

greggvizza,
As a HUMAN BEING, Do you actually care about frogs?
Or are frogs dispensible?
Depends if you are a HUMAN BEING, I guess?
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Dispensible Frogs

Postby greggvizza » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:30 pm

I’m not sure what to think. I am not one to lay in front of bulldozers to stop them from killing endangered species or anything. I love construction. But, when there is the occasional wasp buzzing around in our house, I like to catch it in a glass and let it go outside. My wife would prefer that I just kill it. Hey I don’t know. lol

What do you suggest?

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