The difference between Tesla and Townsend

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The difference between Tesla and Townsend

Postby ETernalightwithin » Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:04 am

I was reading Lyne's book the other day, "Occult Ether Physics". I read this passage about Tesla using AC. I was like, "Wait a min. you can't use AC!"
I forget where I read if about Townsend's flying discs not working with AC but used DC instead.
Yet in Lyne's book he has a picture of what he thinks/knows? was in a German foofighter. The high potential telsa AC is in the front of the ship with a high potential DC on the opposite end. From Lynes's perspective Tesla used high Freq. AC on his flying platform at Colorado Springs, CO as well.

When Tesla talks about his "radiation" it almost sounds like the same radiation as Townsend's. Are both flying using the same force? or is one electrostatic and the otehr electrogravitic?

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Postby Chris Knight » Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:09 am

Eternal,

According to J. Frank King (Bahnson Labs time period), they were using both DC and AC. There are some situations in which the polarity is relatively inconsequential.

Also, modified AC and DC use may give complimentary effects - one neutralizing while the other propels.

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Re: Heroes

Postby Mikado14 » Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:28 pm

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Now we have individuals joining the forum to place advertisements. Wouldn't be someone connected with Rachel Croft or Sourdoh Farenheit, would it?

Video games, computer games - they kill the creativity in youth. Just my opinion.

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Re: Heroes

Postby natecull » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:34 am

Mikado14 wrote:Now we have individuals joining the forum to place advertisements. Wouldn't be someone connected with Rachel Croft or Sourdoh Farenheit, would it?


Been doing some googling on the Interactive Fiction forums? ;) No, we old-school text game types don't spam. There aren't enough of us in the scene to bother advertising to, we mostly write them for free anyway, and anyone who plays MMORPGs is too busy mashing orcs to have time to solve puzzles.

Seriously, what's with people paying people to play a game for them, anyway?
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Re: Heroes

Postby Mikado14 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:52 pm

natecull wrote:
Mikado14 wrote:Now we have individuals joining the forum to place advertisements. Wouldn't be someone connected with Rachel Croft or Sourdoh Farenheit, would it?


Been doing some googling on the Interactive Fiction forums? ;) No, we old-school text game types don't spam. There aren't enough of us in the scene to bother advertising to, we mostly write them for free anyway, and anyone who plays MMORPGs is too busy mashing orcs to have time to solve puzzles.

Seriously, what's with people paying people to play a game for them, anyway?


Actually, follow some of their links. As to Googling, that would have been months ago.

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Re: The difference between Tesla and Townsend

Postby Elizabeth Helen Drake » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:45 am

Nate and Mikado,

Actually, I rather like the name Sourdoh Farenheight,.... sounds a little like the San Francisco version of Indiana Jones? <g> Giving you a hard time here guys but I did find this interesting

http://wurb.com/if/person/122

Creativity comes in all forms and in all names huh Mikado. <g> Elizabeth
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Re: The difference between Tesla and Townsend

Postby JZimmer » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:10 am

Mashing Orcs... not your talking... :lol:
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Re: Heroes

Postby natecull » Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:50 am

Mikado14 wrote:Actually, follow some of their links. As to Googling, that would have been months ago.


What the? Are those spammers linking to freeware Interactive Fiction sites? That would be pretty darn strange if they were, since there's no money involved in the IF scene. Maybe they're just harvesting free games and sticking ads on them or something, like the Wikipedia clone sites?

Strange.
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Re: The difference between Tesla and Townsend

Postby natecull » Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:59 am

Elizabeth Helen Drake wrote:Actually, I rather like the name Sourdoh Farenheight,.... sounds a little like the San Francisco version of Indiana Jones?


Heh. It was for one spoof game where I was trying to parody another IF writer who went by the name of 'Rybred Celsius' and had a very, ahem, 'distinctive' style. Never did manage to crack it. I just ended up writing a bad game.

I haven't actually managed to code a completed game for years. Writer's block or something. If any of you are interested in the genre, take a look at www.inform-fiction.org - the 'Inform 7' compiler is a work of bloody genius by a scarily bright British mathematician. You literally write a story in English and the computer builds a text game from it. It's all very retro. The sort of thing that AI researchers abandoned in the 1970s, but the Net community keeps alive just out of fondness and nostalgia and demented brilliance.

Seriously, some of these British maths types, I tremble to think what they'd be doing if there were another war on. Melting holes in the Moon, probably.
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Re: The difference between Tesla and Townsend

Postby Hector » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:13 pm

Assuming that you view ion wind producing devices as TTBrown devices, then the answer is that yes you can use AC or DC to power such a device. Absent this ion wind effect, AC will result in no net thrust since the vector of force will reverse and cancel any gain from the prior half cycle.
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Harmonic Energy Exchange Device

Postby htmagic » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:57 am

Well folks,

Look what I found, a recently issued patent to Stan Deyo, the Harmonic Energy Exchange Device (HEED), Us patent # 20080191580.

The circuit appears to be deliberately drawn incorrectly so as not to work. The tapping point of the two capacitors to the diode and then the spark gap looks ridiculous. The tuner is not shown, just a coil. Also, he plans on putting this in the Troposphere. I don't think they make skyhooks that big and how's he going to get it up there, with a UFO he builds in his next patent? :lol:

Looks like Mr. Deyo borrowed from Tesla's work and some work of some private researchers that I know.

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Re: Harmonic Energy Exchange Device

Postby Mikado14 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:34 pm

htmagic wrote:The circuit appears to be deliberately drawn incorrectly so as not to work. The tapping point of the two capacitors to the diode and then the spark gap looks ridiculous. The tuner is not shown, just a coil.


Could you post a link to view the schematic? I do not wish to "join" anything to do so. If not possible, don't worry.

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Re: Harmonic Energy Exchange Device

Postby htmagic » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:30 pm

Mikado14 wrote:Could you post a link to view the schematic? I do not wish to "join" anything to do so. If not possible, don't worry.

Mikado

Mikado,

I saw it this morning and then I had to dig for it again.
Here's the link:
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20080191580.PGNR.&OS=DN/20080191580&RS=DN/20080191580

Mikado, you're a ham operator. I'd like to hear your opinion on this...

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Re: The difference between Tesla and Townsend

Postby kevin.b » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:16 pm

This is a good source for tesla,
http://davidszondy.com/future/tesla/tesla.htm
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