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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:05 am
by flowperson
Did someone say "concrete" again ? I happened to run across a reference on Live Science to this guy's work on the materials used to construct the Giza Pyramids. What do you think ? Here's the site:
http://www.materials.drexel.edu/Pyramids/
flow.... 8)

POURED

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:09 am
by Elizabeth Helen Drake
What/ double what /////////

sections of the pyramids poured with an "early form of concrete" WHAT!!!!

oOk Mr. Twigsnapper I guess you finally have my full and undivided attention. I THOUGHT that the first examples of concrete were found with the Etruscans. BACK TO THE BOOKS, BUT WHAT NOW, IF THEY ARE WRONG. Elizabeth

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:53 pm
by ETernalightwithin
I think CHris Dunn made mention of that in his book, The Giza Power Plant : Technologies of Ancient Egypt. Not sure if he was the first to make such an observation.

ETlight

learning all the time

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:21 pm
by Victoria Steele
Who would have thunk it. Looking up the history of concrete. I did think that this was interesting because it tells a story of what happens when groups of people "forget" what has gone before them.

http://www.concretecontractor.com/concrete-history/

"Cement has been a naturally occurring substance for more than 12 million years and was used in rudimentary forms from about 3000 BC by the Egyptians, Chinese and Greeks. In man-made form, however, concrete was first developed by the Romans. Some time in the third century BC, they discovered that mixing volcanic ash with lime mortar, sand and gravel made a rock-hard substance similar to today's concrete. With the addition of animal fat, milk and blood, this substance was called pozzolan cement and was used to construct the Appian Way, the Coliseum and the Pantheon, as well as the Pont du Gard in Southern France.

After the fall of the Roman Empire, the quality of cementing materials diminished rapidly because most people simply were more interested in building with stone. The technique for making pozzolan cement was lost and didn't reappear again until midway through the Middle Ages. In 1414, the manuscripts of the Roman Pollio Vitruvius - which contained information about pozzolan cement - were discovered, thus reviving the interest in concrete. Fra Giocondo used pozzolan cement to build the pier of the Pont de Notre Dame in Paris in 1499, the first modern use of concrete."

well, thats new to me.

then I guess that adobe brick then might be considered an earlier form of "concrete" right! ut I am not clear yet on what the actual difference between concrete and cement is. Victoria

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:26 pm
by Chris Knight
Victoria,

It's pretty straightforward.

Cement is calcined limestone (calicium carbonate) and clay (silica, alumina, and iron oxide-containing materials), which is mixed, calcined (cooked), and ground to a fine powder. When mixed with water and air, it forms a solid mass.

Concrete consists of cement (the binder) mixed with aggregate (sand, gravel, pebbles, broken stone, and/or slag) to give it a higher strength.

thanks so much

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:04 pm
by Victoria Steele
I should have thought of asking a resident geologist! Its just that so many of the accounts I have read seem to switch the terms back and forth and it was confusing. Thanks! Victoria

concrete connections

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:17 pm
by Elizabeth Helen Drake
I just find it somehow mystically strange that sand and gravel of different types and styles seems to be playing such a large role in our discussion here and it seems that none of us is actively pursuing the subject. It oddly seems to be coming to us!

and even just strange is the fact that Dr. Browns family was in the sand and gravel business in Zanesville, how odd it is that he would develop an interest that was so very far removed from their expectations but still incorporate those material. The family archieves of Townsend Brown have numerous pictures of him picking up or investigating various sand or rocks and yet his interest was a universe away from Zanesville.

I thought back a while ago ( Paul will remember this) when he said that the information that he was collecting was like mud in a pit .... and then he was adding straw ... and stirring it around and then the plan was to make the adobe brick and then from there he could make some sort of a structure. I always understood that he saw that as the book and the way to do a good job "building" this structure so that it would last and not simply blow away. nd suddenly the conversation and the mind of the forum has turned toward concrete .... so strange .....

do you remember that Paul? Perhaps you can quote yourself better than my memory, it just seems odd that now we seem to be in a spot where the blocks are all laid out there, all , or most even, numbered. so now its just a matter of carefully fitting the blocks together. This is where the masons skill comes in ..... Elizabeth

Sidereal Radiation Article

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:07 pm
by Chris Knight
I have added an article from the Psychic Observer (circa 1975) entitled, "T. Townsend Brown Studies Sidereal Radiation," on the Qualight site that you all might find interesting.

The article is in the Gravitational Radiation Section at: http://www.qualight.com/radiate/sidereal1.htm.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:06 pm
by kevin.b
Visualise a line entering the planet in a precise vertical alignment, that this lines permeates the planet and comes out directly opposite and travels onward.
Visualise another line on exactly the same precise alignment, but its motion is in entirely the opposite direction, again it permeates straight through the planet and travels on.
It permeates the planet , but does meet with a slight resistance, therefore at the surface of the planet, the incoming flow upon the line entering is slightly travelling faster than the line exitting .
The difference is gravity.
A neutral position will occur at the centre of the planet.
That this resistance will be felt by neighboring planets or stars as the line travels on.
That travelling upon these lines are other forces that are negative in nature, but are changed to positive as they travel through the planet, thus as they exit they meet incoming negative which is attracted together with the positive, hence creation occurs at the surface.
Just my opinion.
kevin

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:34 pm
by kevin.b
I am tracking down this Mr TJJ See , keep tuned into radio 1.618, coming to you on the ELF
http://www.rhfweb.com/ssw.html
http://home.gwi.net/~erichard/fastlit.htm
kevin

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:20 pm
by kevin.b

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:25 pm
by kevin.b
These people have their radio ears on, so will Dr Brown have had.
http://www.heliosnet.co.uk/EZ/er/er/ind ... ge06&sug=0
Faster than silly einsteins speed of light.
And tjj see , I like that man.
kevin

Re: drowning not waving

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:20 am
by Langley
what does this mean Kevin?

http://www.etheric.com/GalacticCenter/GRB.html

Paul

Re: drowning not waving

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:25 pm
by htmagic
Langley wrote:what does this mean Kevin?

http://www.etheric.com/GalacticCenter/GRB.html

Paul
Paul,

I think this pretty well sums it up:
http://www.etheric.com/GalacticCenter/GRB.html wrote:A Superluminal Gravity Wave?

Experiments carried out by Eugene Podkletnov show that a shock front outburst produces a longitudinal gravitational wave that travels forward with the burst. He has found that this gravity wave pulse has a speed in excess of 64 times the speed of light (personal communication). Also Guy Obolensky has produced spark discharge electric potential shock fronts and observed them to propagate forward at speeds as high as 10 times the speed of light. Observations suggest that the gravity wave from an expanding stellar explosion will decrease its superluminal speed and eventually approach the speed of light as the shock front expands. But meanwhile, the gravity wave will have obtained a headstart over the electromagnetic wave radiation component traveling in its wake (light waves, gamma rays, etc.). So one would expect that the gravity wave from such an outburst (and its resultant earthquake activity) would precede the gamma ray burst component.
Tesla discovered that radiant energy was faster than light (superluminal). His early experiments used spark discharge gaps and quenched gaps. I think he got started on pulsed DC. I think it is interesting in one of Kevin's posts that:
http://www.rhfweb.com/ssw.html wrote:Sound waves are also longitudinal just likes scalar waves, and hence sound waves may also be used to approximate, view, and jam scalar waves.
So when the children of Israel circled Jericho silently for 6 days and on the 7th day shouted until the walls came a' tumbling down, was this the first recorded use of scalar weapons?

MagicBill

Re: Sidereal Radiation

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:20 pm
by kevin.b
Langley,
What do I think, I think it's an electrical universe, and it's method and means of operation has been hidden, possibly by the nine unknown men.
They each wrote a book each, we seem to be compressing the nine books into one book.
The knowledge hidden, is the ultimate knowledge of how a system works, and has been abused in the past leading to near extinction .
I think if we are ready to know the system , without abusing it , then we will learn the nines secrets, if not, well," in the blink of an eye, no-thing."
Kevin