Hi Mark...Click on the link that Kevin just posted above. It's a pdf of Sarbacher's letter. The reference is about halfway down the second page where he discusses the speculations concerning the physical makeup of saucer occupants.
Of course these were speculations based upon classical physics and propulsion system assumptions, and not "electrogravitic enveloped" interdimensional transporter paradigms.
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Sorry guys. I missed your message entirely Kevin.
Yeah, thats an interesting way of phrasing all of that. Like he was reporting what others were considering or theorizing. And help me out here .... surely someone out there is better versed with this story than am but it seems to me that I have read a quote from William Lear that pretty much said the same thing .... so maybe this is a cross reference here. Sarbacher reporting on something that Lear said.
And haven't we talked about the Washington Institute of Technology before somewhere. Sheeze, this forum is so big its like some sort of big woods that we can sure get lost in. I KNOW ( I think) that I have seen some sort of reference to these two ( Sarbacher and Lear) knowing and working together.
And Lear was no slouch in letting everyone know that he thought that the UFO thing was definitely real. I am hoping that Paul will be able to show us more of that connection someday. And by the way. Home yet? or gone for the weekend. I suppose. We are going to be MILES down the trail by then Paul. Another empty corral with nothing but pony tracks! Blame Victoria. She started it! MarkC
Yeah, thats an interesting way of phrasing all of that. Like he was reporting what others were considering or theorizing. And help me out here .... surely someone out there is better versed with this story than am but it seems to me that I have read a quote from William Lear that pretty much said the same thing .... so maybe this is a cross reference here. Sarbacher reporting on something that Lear said.
And haven't we talked about the Washington Institute of Technology before somewhere. Sheeze, this forum is so big its like some sort of big woods that we can sure get lost in. I KNOW ( I think) that I have seen some sort of reference to these two ( Sarbacher and Lear) knowing and working together.
And Lear was no slouch in letting everyone know that he thought that the UFO thing was definitely real. I am hoping that Paul will be able to show us more of that connection someday. And by the way. Home yet? or gone for the weekend. I suppose. We are going to be MILES down the trail by then Paul. Another empty corral with nothing but pony tracks! Blame Victoria. She started it! MarkC
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how about this folks
Take a look at this folks and tell me what your reaction is, please.
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/pre1948.php
1942 (89k)
On March 5, 1942, George C. Marshall writes a top-secret memo to the President, which states: "regarding the air raid over Los Angeles it was learned by Army G2 that Rear Admiral Anderson… recovered an unidentified airplane off the coast of California… with no bearing on conventional explanation... This Headquarters has come to the determination that the mystery airplanes are in fact not earthly and according to secret intelligence sources they are in all probability of interplanetary origin." Marshall goes on to state: "As a consequence I have issued orders to Army G2 that a special intelligence unit be created to further investigate the phenomenon and report any significant connection between recent incidents and those collected by the director the office of Coordinator of Information." The memo bears correct Office of Chief of Staff (OCS) file numbers and has "Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit" (IPU) typed on it at a later time by a different typewriter. It is logical to believe that this is the order that sets up the IPU.
This is March 1942. Something was " recovered'? In California? A special Intelligence Unit was then set up? Would that have been enough, do you think , to " sheep dip" Townsend Brown out of the Navy and send him almost immediately to this "lab" in California? I rather expect so.
We have a few pieces of paperwork that name Vega as his destination but the inference we have had from our sources is that whatever was going on was really, REALLY secret, above and beyond Vegas scope. Onion type secret, Somewhat military ..... all Caroline.
Elizabeth
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/pre1948.php
1942 (89k)
On March 5, 1942, George C. Marshall writes a top-secret memo to the President, which states: "regarding the air raid over Los Angeles it was learned by Army G2 that Rear Admiral Anderson… recovered an unidentified airplane off the coast of California… with no bearing on conventional explanation... This Headquarters has come to the determination that the mystery airplanes are in fact not earthly and according to secret intelligence sources they are in all probability of interplanetary origin." Marshall goes on to state: "As a consequence I have issued orders to Army G2 that a special intelligence unit be created to further investigate the phenomenon and report any significant connection between recent incidents and those collected by the director the office of Coordinator of Information." The memo bears correct Office of Chief of Staff (OCS) file numbers and has "Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit" (IPU) typed on it at a later time by a different typewriter. It is logical to believe that this is the order that sets up the IPU.
This is March 1942. Something was " recovered'? In California? A special Intelligence Unit was then set up? Would that have been enough, do you think , to " sheep dip" Townsend Brown out of the Navy and send him almost immediately to this "lab" in California? I rather expect so.
We have a few pieces of paperwork that name Vega as his destination but the inference we have had from our sources is that whatever was going on was really, REALLY secret, above and beyond Vegas scope. Onion type secret, Somewhat military ..... all Caroline.
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Buckaroo Banzai Glasses
Or they could appear as Rastafarians.flowperson wrote:Of course with sufficiently powerful mind control abilities, giant cockroaches or spiders with voracious appetites and nefarious intent could make themselves appear inside of our heads as if they were red headed bearded guys in pale blue jumpsuits and silver circle pins without too much effort.
That is why you need to have a pair of those special Buckaroo Banzai glasses that let you see the real entity.
GV
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I did indeed enjoy it. Thank you for the epiphany.
While George Marshall does have alleged connections to early UFO governmental activities, I'm now aware of his wider and more esoteric interests. It's all "in pattern" -- to use a Visitants' phrase. It's good to know that the women are well remembered too.
It seems clear that you feel that these connections can now be disclosed, but what might my role be in this? I could include this new information in my account of meeting Townsend Brown, in a "further developments" section. Does this sound right to you? I'll check with Paul and see what he's developing. I would appreciate having you, Paul, and Elizabeth look my account over when I finish it, to make sure that I don't miss or mistake anything in what I cover beyond the meeting with Townsend. Paul has already agreed to do this.
I wasn't able to find anything on Lucas Phillips though, except a mention of his service as an elected state official in addition to his legal work. Perhaps one of our super sleuths will do better. I assume there's no relation to the British military officer and author of books on some important WWII events.
All these kinds of widely transformative activities have to occur in order for the world to truly change for the better, and that's obvious in the abstract. But it's great to be able to see some of the particulars of this process as part of an orchestrated "hidden" group agenda. At least it seems clear to me that's what I'm seeing here. I'll be in touch further on this.
As ever,
Griffin
I did indeed enjoy it. Thank you for the epiphany.
While George Marshall does have alleged connections to early UFO governmental activities, I'm now aware of his wider and more esoteric interests. It's all "in pattern" -- to use a Visitants' phrase. It's good to know that the women are well remembered too.
It seems clear that you feel that these connections can now be disclosed, but what might my role be in this? I could include this new information in my account of meeting Townsend Brown, in a "further developments" section. Does this sound right to you? I'll check with Paul and see what he's developing. I would appreciate having you, Paul, and Elizabeth look my account over when I finish it, to make sure that I don't miss or mistake anything in what I cover beyond the meeting with Townsend. Paul has already agreed to do this.
I wasn't able to find anything on Lucas Phillips though, except a mention of his service as an elected state official in addition to his legal work. Perhaps one of our super sleuths will do better. I assume there's no relation to the British military officer and author of books on some important WWII events.
All these kinds of widely transformative activities have to occur in order for the world to truly change for the better, and that's obvious in the abstract. But it's great to be able to see some of the particulars of this process as part of an orchestrated "hidden" group agenda. At least it seems clear to me that's what I'm seeing here. I'll be in touch further on this.
As ever,
Griffin
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Robot Insects?
Funny that he should say "were constructed" instead of "evolved from".kevin.b wrote:Has anyone any idea of what type of insects are referred to here?
http://209.132.68.98/pdf/sarbacher-steinman-29nov83.pdf
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It makes it look a bit like the aliens were some type of robot rather than living beings.
What do you think Kevin?
Thanks for yet another gem. I'm collecting them like precious antiques.
Trickfox
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Trickfox,
I have the word interplanetary stuck in my head at the moment.
Who knows what we may look like at a different frequency?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2-blWgVk-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSE14cMsDtY
The strange things I notice are the words, an EVENT likely to happen, co-incidence?
Its similer with pictures, I just see certain things, and go with the flow.
Kevin
I have the word interplanetary stuck in my head at the moment.
Who knows what we may look like at a different frequency?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2-blWgVk-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSE14cMsDtY
The strange things I notice are the words, an EVENT likely to happen, co-incidence?
Its similer with pictures, I just see certain things, and go with the flow.
Kevin
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up early
Ha, up early to get a good head start and STILL beaten to the punchline!
I wanted to mention that Hollywood movie .... but never bothered to see it either, so thats rubbing salt in a wound. If an audience is expected then get a cast, and a well written script and a leading man who can stay awake during takes. Speilberg just needed better material.
But then, its up to him to find it too. It sure is out there. grady
I wanted to mention that Hollywood movie .... but never bothered to see it either, so thats rubbing salt in a wound. If an audience is expected then get a cast, and a well written script and a leading man who can stay awake during takes. Speilberg just needed better material.
But then, its up to him to find it too. It sure is out there. grady
1942? ya think?
Pre Pearl, 1941, Cape Giradeau
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As a fan of 70’s progressive rock, I recognized that song as being by the band Klaatu.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calling_Oc ... tary_Craftkevin.b wrote: I have the word interplanetary stuck in my head at the moment.
Who knows what we may look like at a different frequency?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2-blWgVk-A
I can’t even comprehend the Carpenters doing that as a cover tune. I am speechless. All I can say now is; I guess there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Here is a link to listen to the original version by Klaatu. Click Calling Occupants on the player on the right. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =141372804
This original version has psychedelic-Beetle-like vocals, french horns, and a surreal mellotron pad, which give it a more interplanetary feel than the Carpenters were able to provide. This was the only version that I ever knew existed, until today, and I was much happier in my ignorance.
“For in much wisdom is much grief, And he who increases knowledge increases sorrowâ€
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not mentioned much
Mikado,
Cape Giradeau is not mentioned much Mikado. I know that Paul is aware of it but I wondered what brought it to your mind? Elizabeth
Cape Giradeau is not mentioned much Mikado. I know that Paul is aware of it but I wondered what brought it to your mind? Elizabeth
Re: not mentioned much
Good Morning my dear,Elizabeth Helen Drake wrote:Mikado,
Cape Giradeau is not mentioned much Mikado. I know that Paul is aware of it but I wondered what brought it to your mind? Elizabeth
I'll tell you why, cuz it predates LA by a year. Kinda shoots the hell out of the Nazi saucer theory but then......
I'll shut up for now, anyway, the dog needs out and I don't have one.
Mikado
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Re: not mentioned much
Iceland comes to mind. Undersea mining by off worlders. Agreement to do to it.
Does anyone know if Ursula Le Guinn knew any of the Brown family? In one of her books (which are sociological portraits of the human condition in an alien environment) she describes a coms device which reaches the intended recipient instantly regardless of distance.
And there is a pretty straight line from Groome Dry Lake to LA and to the off shore area the US fighter jets engage in exercises. The line intersects the commercial airline route from Australia to LA. A few years back the US jets warned off a Qantas 747 demanding it change course or be fired upon.
The Qantas captain complained. But there was something in the flight path the US military didnt want within cooee of civilians.
Credible deniability is a useful thing. Do you have the set ? "In your dreams buddy". But there is a speck in my eye. Its hard to see. has to go to hospital to have it removed. vision cloudy, with both eyes open Im seeing double
Does anyone know if Ursula Le Guinn knew any of the Brown family? In one of her books (which are sociological portraits of the human condition in an alien environment) she describes a coms device which reaches the intended recipient instantly regardless of distance.
And there is a pretty straight line from Groome Dry Lake to LA and to the off shore area the US fighter jets engage in exercises. The line intersects the commercial airline route from Australia to LA. A few years back the US jets warned off a Qantas 747 demanding it change course or be fired upon.
The Qantas captain complained. But there was something in the flight path the US military didnt want within cooee of civilians.
Credible deniability is a useful thing. Do you have the set ? "In your dreams buddy". But there is a speck in my eye. Its hard to see. has to go to hospital to have it removed. vision cloudy, with both eyes open Im seeing double
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Re: 1942? ya think?
Here is a link to a photo purportedly taken at the Cape Girardeau crash site. http://www.ufocasebook.com/missouricrash.htmlMikado14 wrote:Pre Pearl, 1941, Cape Giradeau
Mikado
It doesnt look real, but who knows?
GV