Yes, there are links. And few months ago I gave hints and tried to discuss this, but nobody was interested.
It saddens me that some people who have never read a word of Dr. Kitselman's texts on conscioussness think that just a couple of posts at a forum will do full justice and resolve all the problems.
I took the pain the spend my money and time both in acquiring those materials as well as reading them. And I do not even have all of his texts. Over the past few months I was able to establish several connections in respect to his thoughts on conscioussness, mathematics and Indian teachings.
But one has to be so careful when doing these things. I have studied both Sanskrit, modern and classical Chinese (my Chinese though is better than my Sanskrit) and still take the greatest caution when speaking of these things. Who am I to speak? My knowledge is nothing in comparison with those who enjoyed traditional Indian education and can even speak Sanskrit fluently.
Everyone is shooting fast and loose with Dr. Kitselman, but do you know that he was not just interested in India? Do you know that one of his first texts on Eastern sacred scriptures was about Lao Zi's Dao De Jing?
Which makes me think that he was also familiar with classical Chinese to a certain extent or at least had some glimpses of it.
And there is so much to Dr. Kitselman. A great, good and kind man as far as I can judge from his texts.
It would be wonderful if someone could do justice to his efforts and write his life-story. If not for anything else, then just as a small token of remembrance.
When reading the posts regarding Dr. Kitselman I am really dissapointed. Everyone is saying how they are interested in him, but nobody makes the effort to read what he wrote. Nobody makes the effort to at least get his texts.
And then people wonder why I do not want to share certain information openly on the forum!
Finally there is all this talk about samadhi. I agree it with it, but really miss the rigour, precision and critical reflection.
Above all samadhi is not something you talk about, but something that you can only experience. I know of a gentleman who was slapped by his teacher, when he was talking about such things and his teacher told him: "Never speak about spiritual things that you did not experience for yourself."
The great souls in the past spent their lives sacrificing everything what they had and ultimately themselves to enter such states of conscioussness.
This is best illustrated by the following story. There was a man who was imitating the ecstatic behaviour of the great Indian saint Sri Ramakrishna and Sri Ramakrishna's foremost disciple Swami Vivekananda rebuked this man in such a strict manner that the man in the end ran away. He said to the man: "This great saint spend his whole life practising the most austere sadhanas and you think that you can become like him by simply imitating him."
It is important that such things are discussed, but it has to be done in a very careful way.
And if we are already talking about this, why speculate? Why not consult the primary sources:
Patanjali's Yoga Sutras
Chapter 3 - VIBHUTI PADA
III. 1.
When the attention of the mind-stuff is directed in a single stream to a chosen field, without being dissipated and thus distracted that is concentration.
III. 2.
When the cognition is entirely concentrated in that field thus becoming its own field of observation - that is, when the observer is observed - it is meditation.
III. 3.
When the field of observation and the observing intelligence merge as if their own form is abolished and the total intelligence shines as the sole substance or reality, there is pure choiceless awareness without the divided identity of the observer and the observed - that is illumination.
III. 4.
When these three happen together there is perfect inner discipline . This can happen during what is commonly known as the practice of meditation, and during any other form of physical or mental activity.
III. 5.
When such inner discipline is mastered, there arises the vision that is wisdom.
III. 6.
This vision (or the eye of intuition, or the eye of wisdom, or the inner light) can be directed to many fields of observation.
III. 7.
These three are inner spiritual practices compared to the other five already described viz., discipline, observances, posture, exercise of the life-force, and introversion of attention .
III. 8.
But even these three are external to that enlightenment in which the very seed of duality ceases to exist.
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III. 15.
By correctly directing and focusing the light of perception in which the senses and their objects (the whole of nature) function, knowledge can be gained of the subtle, the hidden, and even the remote objects or phenomena.
III. 26.
By the practice of the threefold discipline on the sun a knowledge of the physical universe is gained.
III. 27.
By the practice of the threefold discipline on the moon, there arises a knowledge of the stellar system.
III. 28.
By the practice of the threefold discipline on the pole star, there comes a knowledge of its movement (or the movement of the stars) .
Source:
http://www.dailyreadings.com/ys3-1.htm
This is connected to what Dr. Kitselman did, but not in a simple and direct way. A very complex topic. Complex, does not mean complicated. Things are simple. The problem is that they are subtle, but our minds are coarse.
No wonder that orthodox, traditional Indians consider Westerners as mleccha (Skt. barbarians) and that Chinese view us as yang guizi ("foreign devils").
AM