Page 61 of 66
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:56 pm
by htmagic
AM wrote:
Mr. Langley wrote:
As an aside during a discussion about the introduction of new technology at Social Security in the 1980s I raised the point that some people would object to having bar codes put on their fortnightly dole forms, and a boss said to me that the government would wait until such people died out.
Well, this is a rather frightening kind of thinking! What causes even greater concern is the fact that people in positions of major or minor power consider such thinking perfectly OK.
You're not paranoid - and the above is the best proof for it.
You know, to put it very bluntly and the analogy may be quite distasteful, but still: When does the so-called paranoia cease to be paranoia and becomes reality? When it is too late and one already gazes in the flaming ovens of Auschwitz?
I prefer YOUR so-called PARANOIA over the FUZZY, WARM "reality" of "normal" people any time.
AM
Well, you think
that's paranoia, what about the National ID system that will be implemented in May 2008? We have less than one month to protest!
http://epic.org/privacy/id-cards/
I want to know if the Government has performed a socioeconomic assessment of this action? Maybe we can stop them from implementing this as the Government is in violation of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). NEPA requires the Government to conduct an environmental assessment for each Federal action that has the chance to impact the environment. Part of the NEPA assessment includes a socioeconomic analysis. And of course if the Government requires use of a plastic card with a "chip" embedded inside (e.g., "smart card"), there may be impacts to the environment in manufacturing these cards.
I watched
one person stop the Department of Energy (DOE) from building a mixed waste processing facility because the DOE started the program without conducting a NEPA analysis. And the facility would actually have reduced the waste stored at the site!!!
MagicBill
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:19 pm
by Mikado14
MagicBill wrote:
Wherever you go, there you are... ( Buckaroo Bonzai)
whever you go ....
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:01 pm
by Linda Brown
You've been there before. Linda
There you are....
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:48 pm
by Trickfox
But the rest of the universe is not there with you yet.
Trickfox
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:15 am
by htmagic
Chris Knight wrote:Mercury is a CNS (Central Nervous System) toxin, which can appear as tics, flu-like symptoms, increased agression, lack of attention, trouble talking, walking and other motor skills, as well as memory issues.
It can be hard to pin down since the symptoms can vary greatly between individuals, and can go away at any point, or remain indefinitely.
Chris is correct. Mercury was once used in the manufacture of hats. From Wikipedia:
Wikipedia wrote:Hat making
From the mid-18th to the mid-19th centuries, a process called "carroting" was used in the making of felt hats. Animal skins were rinsed in an orange solution (the term "carroting" arose from this color) of the mercury compound mercuric nitrate, Hg(NO3)2·2H2O.[18] This process separated the fur from the pelt and matted it together. This solution and the vapors it produced were highly toxic. The United States Public Health Service banned the use of mercury in the felt industry in December 1941. The psychological symptoms associated with mercury poisoning are said by some to have inspired the phrase "mad as a hatter", though etymological study suggests that the phrase is actually much older and unrelated to hatters - see hatter for commentary on the origin of the phrase. Lewis Carroll's "Mad Hatter" in his book Alice's Adventures in Wonderland was a play on words based on the older phrase, but the character itself does not exhibit symptoms of mercury poisoning.[19]
Time to go down the rabbit hole...
MagicBill
Re: mental visions
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:36 am
by htmagic
FM No Static At All wrote:Linda Brown wrote:
IF my father had been exposed to Mercury vapor which would have caused enough damage for his lungs to bleed I just wonder how long that would take to present itself in that way?
Its been said on and off that he was affected by some sort of bacterial strain that was in the water he so loved swimming in and that perhaps the high voltage work with resultant ozone caused damage but those thoughts were just developed later and during the time that he was suffering from this terrible thing no one was able to diagnose what was wrong. <SNIP> They never came up with any kind of diagnosis that was not pure guess work. So as far as I am concerned this thought of possible damage from Mercury could be quite valuable a trail as to his activities. It was certainly nothing I was allowed to know, until now perhaps.
I am surprised that with all of the "connections" nobody had mentioned the work of Royal R. Rife. His Universal Microscope in which he was able to see live virus, was displayed at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia for many years. He also discovered resonances that when applied to bacteria, viruses, etc. they can be destroyed with the frequencies.
He later isolated what he named BX and BY as being carcinoma and sarcoma. I can vaguely remember some weird electrical devices my grandfather had tucked away in his examination room. All he told me was maybe someday I would learn to cure cancer, but he never lived to tell me more, and I had placed it so far back in my memory that it wasn't until reading a review about Barry Lynes's book about the
Cancer Cure That Worked: Fifty Years Of Suppression that I started to remember. My "Poppa Doc" was always feuding with the AMA and he refused to renew his membership.
<SNIP>
Asbestos resins, mercury, ozone, these all may have contributed, and there may have been other things like the very frequencies being used that actually helped to reverse the effects of the toxins. Perhaps that is why it temporarily at least, seemed to abate.
Rife was in California in the thirties I think. And the fact that he demonstrated his microscope in Philadelphia, I would have thought the Caroline Group would have known him and would have used his technology also.
Fred
Linda, if your father had scarring of the lungs, that could have been caused while he was on ships. Ships in those days were covered with asbestos and those needle fine fibers could easily get stuck in the lungs. If he was around shipyards, he was probably exposed to it. Some of the asbestos fibers can stay airborne for a long time. The 2 - 10 micron fibers can get inhaled deeply in the lungs and could cause bleeding. If he smoked, it could be 100 times worse. Scar tissue could cover the fibers and cause asbestoses and make it difficult to breathe. Mercury vapor wouldn't have helped matters and could have compounded it.
Dr. Royal Rife had a cure for cancer in 1935 but the AMA broke into his lab, took his equipment and notes, and threw Rife in jail for not using "approved devices."
http://rife.org/ The video gives a tour of Rife's lab.
http://rife.org/ramfiles/rifelabtour.ram
Later on, Dr. Hulda Clark
http://www.huldaclark.com/ had her son who was an electrical engineer devise a battery operated electrical device that would kill parasites and stimulate the body's immune system at certain frequencies. She called it the "zapper". Now viruses cannot become immune to electrical pulses as they can with drugs. She wrote a book called "
Cure for All Cancers" and later "
Cure for All Diseases". The AMA started to come after her and she ran south of the border to Mexico where she treats hundreds of cases with successful results. Her device is different than Rife's in that Rife could tune to a specific frequency to kill the cancer or disease and the zapper is more broadband. I have a zapper and used it myself to zap away scratchy throats, sinus infections, toothaches, all without pharmaceuticals. I'm not saying it is a "cure all" but I've had good results and even skeptics have noticed positive effects (much to their consternation).
MagicBill
Re: mental visions
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:52 am
by FM No Static At All
htmagic wrote:
Linda, if your father had scarring of the lungs, that could have been caused while he was on ships. Ships in those days were covered with asbestos and those needle fine fibers could easily get stuck in the lungs. If he was around shipyards, he was probably exposed to it. Some of the asbestos fibers can stay airborne for a long time. The 2 - 10 micron fibers can get inhaled deeply in the lungs and could cause bleeding. If he smoked, it could be 100 times worse. Scar tissue could cover the fibers and cause asbestoses and make it difficult to breathe. Mercury vapor wouldn't have helped matters and could have compounded it.
Dr. Royal Rife had a cure for cancer in 1935 but the AMA broke into his lab, took his equipment and notes, and threw Rife in jail for not using "approved devices."
http://rife.org/ The video gives a tour of Rife's lab.
http://rife.org/ramfiles/rifelabtour.ram
Later on, Dr. Hulda Clark
http://www.huldaclark.com/ had her son who was an electrical engineer devise a battery operated electrical device that would kill parasites and stimulate the body's immune system at certain frequencies. She called it the "zapper". Now viruses cannot become immune to electrical pulses as they can with drugs. She wrote a book called "
Cure for All Cancers" and later "
Cure for All Diseases". The AMA started to come after her and she ran south of the border to Mexico where she treats hundreds of cases with successful results. Her device is different than Rife's in that Rife could tune to a specific frequency to kill the cancer or disease and the zapper is more broadband. I have a zapper and used it myself to zap away scratchy throats, sinus infections, toothaches, all without pharmaceuticals. I'm not saying it is a "cure all" but I've had good results and even skeptics have noticed positive effects (much to their consternation).
MagicBill
You may look into Dr. Virginia Livingston Wheeler and the work she did with isolating a virus in poultry and eggs that she claimed was a cause of cancer. She wrote a paper and was invited to give a lecture in Rome. Upon her return to her research lab at Princeton, she was summarily dismissed and was unable to find any work elsewhere.
Her father suggested she move to California where she met Royal R. Rife and the collaborated on research and clinical studies along with a guy named Crane who a electronics expert. They eventually were shut down by Morris Fishbein and the AMA and Rife was indicted for several felony charges (detail on the web site you found on Rife). Today there are a few microscopes manufactured in Europe that be close to what Rife developed, but at a very high cost. Dr. Hulda Clark also published a list of frequencies and the ailments they will cure which is harmony with those of Dr. Rife.
Classical Oath of Hippocrates
swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepios and Hygeia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:
To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art - if they desire to learn it - without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else.
I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.
I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.
Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.
What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about.
If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.
Modern oath
swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.
I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.
I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
I like the classical version better.
Fred
The girls don't seem to care tonight
As long as the mood is right
No static at all
[No static at all]
No static at all
FM, no static at all
Maxwell's Demon lives!
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:19 am
by FM No Static At All
This is a possibility.
http://www.cheniere.org/articles/2ndLaw.htm
Dr. Evans and one of his colleagues, G. P. Morriss, are specialists in statistical mechanics of equilibrium liquids, having authored an important textbook on the subject {[5]}. His colleague E. Cohen is one of the most capable statistical mechanics scientists of today.
Their work voices an immediate concern for the emerging field of nanobots and nanotechnology {[6]}. If the nanobots are made very small — micron-size or even smaller — they may not work correctly, due to erratically and frequently shifting into reversed operation as the applicability of the second -law fluctuates and the law is repeatedly violated. So the smaller nanobots may not behave as simple scaled-down versions of their "big brother" counterparts at all {[7], [8]}.
The new finding also has important ramifications for living systems at the cellular level. Living systems are known to violate the second law of thermodynamics, e.g., at the cellular level and in the ion pumps that make our nervous systems function. Even grains of sand — agitated in a two-chamber vessel where the two chambers are connected by a hole — act in the manner referred to as a "Maxwell's demon" {[9]}. The agitated sand does separate {[10]} as if for Maxwell's famous demon, with the hotter and faster-moving grains migrating to one chamber and the cooler grains migrating to the other chamber. But because of the exchange of energy between grains of sand, this separation is thought not to violate the second law, since individual grains absorb and radiate heat, and so energy is exchanged. It is well known that disequilibrium exchange of energy allows violation of the second law {[11]}. In the agitated sand system, disequilibrium is provided by the steady input of mechanical energy from outside the system.
Call the physics police, we have a violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics!
Fred
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:08 am
by kevin.b
Fred,
That was a great post, somewhat arduous to get through , but great.
If they could stop thinking about the mass a little as well, and actually consider that it is the flow of space causing all the exchange, and mass is a mere result of all of that, then we may get somewhere.
Instead of thinking that mass must have come from somewhere, consider that it never existed , and actually still doesn't , its all just a condition relevant to the local area in space constantly forming and dissolving at those points.
It's the only way any FTM machine can work, surely?
If nothing actually exists , except as a fraction of a second result of a specific condition, then all you need do is re-create the relevant condition that occured or will occur past and forward, then you will be there.
In that film clip of buckeroo banzai is a great line,
"Remember!, no matter where you go, there You are."
Brilliant.
I sent your friend an email, if he hasn't recieved it, just pass on my e-mail.
kevin
Photons as magnetic dipoles
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:38 am
by FM No Static At All
kevin.b wrote:Fred,
That was a great post, somewhat arduous to get through , but great.
If they could stop thinking about the mass a little as well, and actually consider that it is the flow of space causing all the exchange, and mass is a mere result of all of that, then we may get somewhere.
Instead of thinking that mass must have come from somewhere, consider that it never existed , and actually still doesn't , its all just a condition relevant to the local area in space constantly forming and dissolving at those points.
It's the only way any FTM machine can work, surely?
If nothing actually exists , except as a fraction of a second result of a specific condition, then all you need do is re-create the relevant condition that occured or will occur past and forward, then you will be there.
In that film clip of buckeroo banzai is a great line,
"Remember!, no matter where you go, there You are."
Brilliant.
You would probably find the as arduous but equally compelling:
W
ave-Particle Paradox and Evans Photomagneton
http://www.physicsphotons.org/Wave_Particle15.PDF
Contained within this document is an explanation of "String Theory" and a postulation that unifies the forces including strong and weak nuclear as a function of the quantum energy (EM?) with what you consider the vibrations underlying the holographic nature of matter. Perhaps what we call solid matter is just as you say, merely an illusion that we create to make sense of reality.
I am interested in tourmaline. Tourmaline contains iron, potassium, lithium, boron, and other metals that are used in electrical components and energy systems. It is also one of the only materials known to produce an electric current (0.06ms) naturally.
So does that mean if I use a little bit of tourmaline attached to electrodes, and place it within my cell phone, I can forget about recharging? What a concept!
I wonder if Dr. Brown used tourmaline in any of his work, and in which work(s) it was used.
Fred
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:00 am
by kevin.b
Fred,
I went to your link via,
http://www.physicsphotons.org
I sense I need to stick to the practical, I don't have the basic foundation in the relevance of all of the words utilised, so it becomes a little similer to looking at chinese writing.
The more I cram into my empty head the maths, the less able I am to think.
Hopefully the practical and theory can combine , and a better comprehension of who and what we are can be achieved.
By the way, tourmaline is used as an aging device in metalwares, if you have a new brass object , and want it to look like an antique one, just dip it in tourmaline.
Does anyone know what these ionic breeze tourmaline hair dryers are all about?
Just remembered something, the Egyptians really rated tourmaline, they knew it as,
The Rainbow crystal.
kevin
Re: Maxwell's Demon lives!
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:02 pm
by greggvizza
FM No Static At All wrote:In the agitated sand system, disequilibrium is provided by the steady input of mechanical energy from outside the system.
Confusing. In one statement they are saying that there is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics and then in the last line they make the statement that “disequilibrium is provided by the steady input of mechanical energy from outside the system”.
The laws of thermodynamics only apply in closed systems. If energy is being supplied from outside the closed system then what would be perceived as a breach in the law is actually just a flaw in the required setup parameters.
Just like with energy from the aether. Some would say that an over unity system violates the second law of thermodynamics, but if the energy is being supplied from the aether (which is outside the system) the law still remains safely intact.
GV
Re: Photons as magnetic dipoles
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:06 pm
by greggvizza
FM No Static At All wrote:It is also one of the only materials known to produce an electric current (0.06ms) naturally.
So does that mean if I use a little bit of tourmaline attached to electrodes, and place it within my cell phone, I can forget about recharging? What a concept!
What does the ms after the 0.06 stand for? My brain may not be awake yet. I dont drink coffee, so I have a slower ramp up time in the morning.
GV
the use of dragons and crystals
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:12 pm
by Linda Brown
Kevin,
Linda Bolland just sent me a very interesting note on NRO patches and one would be of great interest to you I think. I will try to edit in what she sent ( or if you happen to be reading this LindaB please respond.. what you sent was very interesting but I think of all of us here kevin will get the most out of it.) All I could think was " Beyond Here there be Dragons!
................( its a patch that belongs to the NRO. Showing a dragon holding the top of the earth in its top claws and the bottom in the bottom claws and wrapped around some sort of crystal with its tail .... does not look like a diamond to me. )
from the article..................................................................................
This is one of my all-time favorite patches: the green dragon holding the world in its clutches, American flag wings, and its tail wrapped around a diamond. I didn't know what this was for a long time, although I knew that it was from the National Reconnaissance Office and had to do with a classified satellite. When I stumbled on an information compartment called BYEMAN/IMPROVED CRYSTAL/DRAGON, which had to do with the infrared imaging capabilities on advanced KH-11 imaging satellites, I assumed that I'd found the source of the patch's imagery. I was wrong. Aerospace researcher Dwayne Day has the whole story in an excellent article at the Space Review.
According to Day, the patch comes from the B-36 Titan IV launch from Cape Canaveral on September 8, 2003. The payload apparently went into a geosynchronous orbit, which means that it wasn't an imaging satellite. The satellite is probably a signals-intelligence satellite descended from the Rhyolite spacecraft. The more recent code names of these SIGINT birds are reportedly ORION, MAGNUM, and MENTOR. The dragon image shows up on several patches associated with these types of payload. And what does the diamond/crystal on the patch refer to? I wish I knew.
(Added 01/16/2008)............................................................................
Linda
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:21 pm
by kevin.b
Linda brown,
I wouldn't assume that is a diamond, not with curved side panels?
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1033/1
Theres some funny looking other dragons in this link as well, the gold on some of them is interesting also?
kevin