Chapter 27 - A complete System

[flowperson]

Kevin...Understood, lots of turmoil here in the housing markets in particular. It's clear that someone somewhere has a certain "foreknowledge". It was just too coincidental that our bankruptcy laws changed so drastically a couple of years before this all hit.

It's all really putting a lot of the middle class in the U.S. in "debtor's prison" I'm afraid. And there's no escaping to Europe since everything now costs twice as much for us there these days.

H Short...C'mon pardner, saddle up and climb up on this here pinto pony with the rest of us. We're all on a strange trip to somewhere, and the more heartfelt opinions we have on that pony's back, the more fruitful the trip will be for all of us.

flow....

[H. Short]

H. Short.

I ,for one, sort of missed you. I loved that exchange about the T Rex .... ( did you notice that the movie is coming out on video " Meet the Robinsons" Victoria

Victoria:

Rex and the retro-FTM was fun to do, even if it was rather nonsensical. Have to admit I missed the announcements regarding the release of the Robinsons video.

So, you 'sorta' missed me, eh? I've been putzing around with de-renovating a little cottage I built years and years ago that got 'renovated' during one of my many absences. It broke my heart when I saw what had been done to it but I wasn't able to do much with it until lately. Its just a single story; however, when I built it, I incorporated a modified 'power tower' roof design and gave it a fairly steep pitch so the ceiling actually has an interior peak height of over 14 feet. This gives enough room for a small loft and I've been playing around with ideas to integrate a set of existing windows at the peak to make a sort of interior solar arboretum with a fountain or water walls even. I love the sound of running water as long as it isn't running through the bedding on a cold drizzly night...

None of this, as you probably noticed, has any thing to do with Paul's book. My previous comments regarding technology and what seemed potential flaws in the story development simply seemed to stimulate, instead of serious discussions, the emergence of the troll within for some, and angst and heart palpitations in others such as the gentle femme. Since I have no interest in trying to dictate how people think about technological stuff, write their books, or run their forums I just went back to doing a little more reading up on classical theory.

The interesting thing is that there seems to be a fairly logical explanation for how the so called 'Biefield - Brown' effect works based upon classical orthogonal aether physics. I made up a page with an overview of the principles and have been meaning to upload it and leave a note here with the url for anyone who might have an interest, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. It may be completely flawed reasoning but its pretty basic so its hard to get things too screwed up once the problem is viewed from the proper perspective. See, if you were into technology I could run it by you as its always nice to bounce ideas off like minded individuals; as it is I'll probably procrastinate indefinitely. Maybe I should give Rex a call, you think?

[greggvizza]

See, if you were into technology I could run it by you as its always nice to bounce ideas off like minded individuals; as it is I'll probably procrastinate indefinitely.

I'm into technology. Feel free to start bouncing. If your objective is not to turn the forum into a physics forum, then a little technical side line discussion every once and a while is perfectly acceptable, so long as we keep in mind that it just a little sideline discussion.

Lets hear the logical explanation for how the so called 'Biefield - Brown' effect works based upon classical orthogonal aether physics.

GV

[James Barrett]

H. Short,

( you said then "Not a bad idea probably to go back to " classical theory") So, I was left wondering, in this case, how will that help? and " classical orthogonal aeher physics"? I am dense enough I guess to wonder what the heck that is exactly. I guess I need to study up on that phrase too.

You seemed disappointed that the forum here somehow didn't engage with you in a proper discussion of the science involved in the Biefeld-Brown Effect and I can maybe understand that, if that is where your passion lies.

Why not post what your current thoughts are?

I doubt that you need to worry about being able to " dictate how any of these people think" here on this forum. From what I have seen so far that wouldn't be a concern.

and I doubt too that Paul will alter his course, or that some of the people posting here will get any less involved and passionate in the story. You may as well just ignore their attitudes and contribute if you feel up to it, without assuming that no one will be able to understand you. What little I have seen of this forum ....there might just be a few who would surprise you.
JDB

[Trickfox]

the so called 'Biefield - Brown' effect works based upon classical orthogonal aether physics.

I'd say you are definately on the same path as everyone else who is beginning to understand this. I'm just surprized to see ANYONE using the correct term "Orthogonal". Now perhaps you can expand a little on the "type" of "Orthogonal function" that you have in mind.
Trickfox

[H. Short]

the so called 'Biefield - Brown' effect works based upon classical orthogonal aether physics.

I'd say you are definately on the same path as everyone else who is beginning to understand this. I'm just surprized to see ANYONE using the correct term "Orthogonal". Now perhaps you can expand a little on the "type" of "Orthogonal function" that you have in mind.
Trickfox

One of the items Brown mentions when describing his bi-polar gravitor is that its motion is polarity independent: that is the negative and positive feeds can be switched and the direction of motion of the suspended device doesn't change. The reason for this can be explained by the fact that in a solid the only internal movement is going to be that of free electrons - and the important movement is not axial but rather radial. Movement of the device is in accordance with orthogonal rules and will cease once the electrons have readjusted to the changes in the electrical field - just as described by Brown.

Since there seems to be some interest in this I can upload the page referred to which gives a more detailed overview of the process. It might take me a day or so as was going to change servers but never got around to it.

[Mikado14]

the so called 'Biefield - Brown' effect works based upon classical orthogonal aether physics.

I'd say you are definately on the same path as everyone else who is beginning to understand this. I'm just surprized to see ANYONE using the correct term "Orthogonal". Now perhaps you can expand a little on the "type" of "Orthogonal function" that you have in mind.
Trickfox

One of the items Brown mentions when describing his bi-polar gravitor is that its motion is polarity independent: that is the negative and positive feeds can be switched and the direction of motion of the suspended device doesn't change. The reason for this can be explained by the fact that in a solid the only internal movement is going to be that of free electrons - and the important movement is not axial but rather radial. Movement of the device is in accordance with orthogonal rules and will cease once the electrons have readjusted to the changes in the electrical field - just as described by Brown.

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One of the characteristics of a dielectric is that there are practically no free electrons to contribute to current flow or anything else. I would like to hear where they are coming from and are we looking at it as a scalar or vector?

Just a thought,

Mikado

[Trickfox]

As you can see Mr. Short there are definately a few of us who are interested in what you have to bring from the technology viewpoint. So, by all means, stay tuned and continue to bring forth any information you feel is worthy to post.

Trickfox

[kevin.b]

Biefield versus Biefeld,
I bet its by field
We all have two, one picking up the lower positive, and one up in negative, the dual spin causes the off centre heart to pulse.
Thats why we stood up.
Our feet are antennae, our hands are antennae.
Similer to a tree.
Just had the strangest thought, does a human body weigh any different when dead to alive?
How heavy is the apple when its a part of the field of the tree, as opposed to when it breaks free and is in the earths field?
If the apple had hit Newton a bit harder, he may have pondered that.
Kevin

[Mikado14]

Just had the strangest thought, does a human body weigh any different when dead to alive?Kevin

Some say that the body loses about 12 ounces or so when it expires. Is that the weight of the soul?

Hmmmm, guess I lost it and then gained it back. How about you Mr. Flow? Do you think Jenny Craig knows this?

Mikado

[kevin.b]

This made me laugh, you can sense this man becoming angry because his sixth test patient died before he could adjust his scales.
http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp
He found a slight loss of weight?

I was hoping for a gain in weight, then you could theorise that a biefeld brown reaction is uplifting, so that if you boosted the effect you could ascend, litterally, these yogi's do it?
kevin

[Elizabeth Helen Drake]

I don't want to get technical about all of this but one of the reasons its nearly an impossible situation to get the accurate weight of a body directly after death is ( compared to its weight with the "soul?" ) .... unfortuneately alot of other stuff leaves the body as well as the soul......... (for those not understanding, what I am saying it is generally the stuff that some of us occasionally have been accused of being so " full of" during our lives ............ ask any medical person) .....So ...... though that would be an interesting experiment. I just don't know how many people would want or be able to set it up ..........

I liked your discussion of Bi Feld .... or By field ... considering the last chapter certainly made me smile but I have some other suggestions for you. Apparently according to the mans son, the name was pronounced " Bee Feld. And even that makes me smile thinking of what you could do with that kevin! Elizabeth

[Mikado14]

I don't want to get technical about all of this but one of the reasons its nearly an impossible situation to get the accurate weight of a body directly after death is ( compared to its weight with the "soul?" ) .... unfortuneately alot of other stuff leaves the body as well as the soul......... (for those not understanding, what I am saying it is generally the stuff that some of us occasionally have been accused of being so " full of" during our lives ............ ask any medical person) .....So ...... though that would be an interesting experiment. I just don't know how many people would want or be able to set it up ..........

Elizabeth,

If you read the link that kevin posted you will see that that was accounted for by the Doctor for the entire bed was a balance beam. In other words, whether it be in the bowel or the bed it would be on the scale.

Just throwing it on the fan to see what sticks when it hits the pasta that is already on the wall...<g>

Mikado

[flowperson]

Just throwing it on the fan to see what sticks when it hits the pasta that is already on the wall...<g>

Mikado

There are still parts of Italy where they burn people at the stake for mentioning pasta and doo-doo in the same sentence, even if fans are involved.

And I was out like an unplugged light for two days in ICU having all of my functions serviced by tubes and electrodes. After one day there I woke up briefly and the fools gave me demerol. I didn't even know that I couldn't tolerate it, and I took a trip. That only lasted about five minutes they said later, but it seemed longer than that to me.

Then they gave me morphine and everything was just...wonderful until I went sleepy bye again.
I don't know if my soul was weighed or not, but I digress.

flow....

[Griffin]

Some heavy, soulful thoughts.

Griffin